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ICYMI: RUBIO CALLS OUT PRESIDENT'S SOCIAL SECURITY SCARE TACTICS
"If they don’t get their Social Security checks, it’s because the President’s decided to do that, because we still have revenue coming in. ... I think people are going to be shocked to learn the real truth about what the government’s done with their Social Security money."
Sen. Marco Rubio
Interview
“The Hugh Hewitt Show”
July 12, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFaZigczRWM
Sen. Rubio: People Are Going to Be Shocked to Learn the Real Truth About What the Government’s Done With Their Social Security Money
Hugh Hewitt: “Senator Rubio, you represent a lot of senior citizens in Florida. The country knows that. I think it’s despicable to scare them this way. What’s your reaction to the President’s threat to hold their Social Security checks hostage?”
Sen. Rubio: “Well, if they don’t get their Social Security checks, it’s because the President’s decided to do that, because we still have revenue coming in. Here’s the other thing I would say. If in fact the President holds up their checks for Social Security, and Medicare, and whatever else he wants to hold up to make his point, isn’t he admitting that all these programs are funded by deficit spending? Isn’t he admitting that all these programs are dependent upon borrowed money?
“And I think the folks who are on Social Security, people like my mom, would be shocked to learn the truth that the money that they’re receiving in Social Security isn’t the money they worked hard for all these years to put away, the government was going to give back to them in their retirement. The government spent all that money already. They spent it long ago on other things. This is borrowed money. This is money that we’re borrowing from our children and our grandchildren. And I think people are going to, if that happens, I think people are going to be shocked to learn the real truth about what the government’s done with their Social Security money.”
Sen. Rubio: This Issue of the Debt Limit Didn’t Sneak Up On Us
Hugh Hewitt: “Do you think the negotiations that he had lured Republicans into over the last couple of weeks have been in bad faith?”
Sen. Rubio: “Well, I wasn’t in those negotiations, so I’d hate to characterize something I wasn’t a part of. Let me say that he was late to the game.
“First of all, the President, this is not a new issue, okay? This issue of the debt limit didn’t sneak up on us. This has been around for a while. We knew this was coming. And then the President’s done nothing on it. He gave a state of the union speech this year, never mentioned any plans about how to address this. He offered a budget before Congress, and the budget was so bad, I mean, it actually increased the debt. His budget was so bad, so unrealistic, that when we put it to a vote here in the Senate, not even a single Democrat voted for it. That’s how bad it was. It didn’t get a single vote.
“So he’s had multiple opportunities to deal with this, and he’s kind of punted and moved the ball along, and focused on other things. And now, with three weeks to go, two weeks to go, all of a sudden, he wants to ride in and act like he’s leading. Well, he’s not leading. In fact, what he’s doing is he’s trying to position this as a political issue, so he can claim victory for his 2012 election. But the reality of it is that people know better, they’re going to realize it, we’re going to continue to talk about it.”
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Comment by amanda choate on July 15, 2011 at 10:17am
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Mr. Davis,
96 billion is chump change. I have no delusion that Social Security or Medicare will be around when I retire. It is simple arithmatic. It won't be here. The math simply doesn't work. So I realize that I am getting fleeced. The fact that you didn't do the math when you were paying in is of no interest to me. Plenty of people who had done the math 40 years ago said this wouldn't work. You chose to pay in anyway, you are the chump. Because of your folly do not ask me to follow you down the tubes.
Let me be clear. I am sorry you were taken for a ride, but once again, it isn't my problem.
Medicare is unfunded by 40 trillion dollars. It is impossible that it would be there in 35 years. Impossible. So why should I pay?
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Comment by Joe Strange on July 15, 2011 at 10:16am
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Patricia:
If you are a retired military person and not reached SS retirement age or become disabled prior to reaching that age, you have two (2) Tricare choices. 1. "Standard Tricare" (no premium), or 2. "Tricare Prime" (a very low premium, along with a very low co-pay....$12.00 for a Doctor visit & $100.00 for a hospital stay.). Once you reach SS retirement age you can enroll in "Tricare for Life" (you pay standard Medicare premiums Part A & B).
I am on Tricare for Life and have received numerous surgeries (including office visits & out patient care) with no cost to me, except my monthly Medicare premiums. As far as my medications, I do have to pay for them. $3.00 dollars for generic.........$9.00 for brand name. NOT TOO BAD.
I'm not saying that what you said is not true, but it does seem by what you wrote, that you are not getting the benefits that are available to you and/or your husband.
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Mr. Morrison, the fact is this, however it got there, Medicare is unfunded by 40 trillion dollars. Now if you have a proposal as to how to fill that hole that includes something other than abandonment or complete turnover of healthcare to the government, please bring that idea forth. I have listened and read and studied, and I personally have found no notion or idea forthcoming that addresses this issue. There are simpler solutions to the social security problem. One of the first things we could do is raise interests rates. the Social Security Trust Fund buy billions of Bonds from the Treasury. Right now with rates being so low, the yield as dropped terribly low, depleting the fund as a aresult.
Right now the fed is rewarding borrowers instead of savers. They want to encourage borrowing and economic growth. The problem is banks are able to make more money from means other than lending. Acquistions, derivatives, stock markets, etc. Banks, under Glass-Steagal were pretty much limited to lending as a means of income produciton, no longer.
So that being said, Social security can be fixed, medicare not so easy.
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I propose Ms. Amanda keep filling in the donations to social security while volunteering to forego any benefits when she reaches qualifying age of 72. She has successfully deferred the argument from the NATIONAL DEBT like a good, sweet, seminary demoRAT. Cancelling medicaid, section 8, wix, and food stamps should be the first place to trim Hussein's demoRAT budget. We don't need to donate any more to the IMF. Stay a non-paying member. DO NOT GIVE Grease 96 BILLION to help the competing currency, the EURO. It was formed by europeons to trash the dollar. Doesn't anyone get that? Let it die, let it collapse. Soros and hussein's buds have directed enough money already. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! What would I feel if the entire Department of the Interior is totally defunded? What about the SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? After the military is paid, then pay social security and Medicare. Completely defund Medicaid, AFDC, Wix, Food Stamps and all other MOOCHER PROGRAMS. In Social Security, only those that vested themselves with ten years of payment. Same qualification for medicare. This will automatically cull 80% of criminal Invaders and anchor babies. HAVE A NICE DAY!
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Comment by Chuck Morrison on July 15, 2011 at 9:07am
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Whoa, Amanda, I haven't read anything here about not wanting to pay for SS and Medicare, so I don't know where that comes from. Most rational people agree that both programs could be functioning just fine if the pols and bleeding hearts and fraudsters had left them alone. SS payments don't go to only retired people who contributed along with their employers over the years. Same with Medicare except the thieves and tort lawyers manage to make a very large chunk of that money disappear every year, one step ahead of our hard-working govt. watchdogs. And yes, not everyone is perfect - we all have known folks who visit the doctor for the slightest ache and they will always be with us. But both programs look much different to a 30 year-old than to a 70 year-old. Take them away and where does the 70 year-old who may be able and wants to work find a job when there are not enough jobs for the 30 year-olds? No simple answers here like taking the lid off the debt ceiling, no campaign one-liners to make the problem go away, no draping the blame on your opponent.
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www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/usc_sup_01_31.html
This is where you can find the operative laws regarding payments made by the US government.
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Patricia,
Was your husband conscripted for his entire career in the military? If not it sounds to me as though he made a free choice to be on a subamarine. It was free choice, besides there are no free market jobs for submariners. If he chose to work for one-third less, then that was his choice and not my problem. Besides that, this is the same argument made by state workers, they have a contract. And you have seem pretty adamant they are freeloaders, bloodsuckers.
We have to decide as a country what is the most important issue. If we say that medicare and social security are important, then pay for it. If not we are not going to pay for it, then get rid of it. And if we are not going to turn people away at emergency rooms who cannot pay for their treatment, then they must have insurance. And if you are impaired, mentally or physically, and cannot contribute, and we are not going to let you live in the streets or be taken care of family, then we have to pay for you. The problem is this, we want social security and medicare, but we don't want to pay for them.
It is one or the other.
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Comment by Theresa Pletcher on July 14, 2011 at 7:13pm
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Thanks Chuck I couldn't find it...I just found it...Tamara is living in a dream world that's for sure!
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Comment by Denise leBlanc James on July 14, 2011 at 6:16pm
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Bottom line is the liberal democrat party has used this scare tactic for as long as I can remember every year and a half when they come to the table. There are many things involved, but, one thing is certain; people do get taken care of in this country at the expense of those who work hard and contribute to the tax rolls. Don't even begin to defend the rampant abuse brought on by the Democrat politicians to get re-elected . If you do not research your information properly it's just best to not attack anyone on this Tea party site. That absolutely does not solve a thing. I hold to the beliefs the GOP will hold on NOT raising the debt ceiling because we don't need it. We need to cut all the foolish spending in the growth of big government. On both sides. I pray for this country in the mean-time.
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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 14, 2011 at 5:58pm
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Well, Tamara, I read you post too, and I was wondering where you got the information about the free medicare? You see, money is deducted......along with the taxes that were already paid on the money they confiscated from my paycheck for social security. I pay for insurance coverage every month for medicaire even the months I don't go to the doctors. I don't use the presciption coverage because my husband spend almost 23 years in the Navy earning about 1/3 of what he could have earned if he had been a civilian working sometimes 24 hours a day for 3 months at a time.............as a benefit, we were told to make up for the lousey pay and the illegal work hours, we would receive "free" medical care for life........that is a joke cause we got dumped on medicare and we pay for that and are allowed to use tricare as our secondary and for medicine if the Navy hospital doesn't carry the meds we use.
Like I said, I really wonder where you got you information and maybe your very liberal attitude?
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