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Comment by Karen M on February 26, 2012 at 5:07pm

Comment by Paul Davis on February 8, 2012 at 7:00am

It seems like this thread is covering a lot of territory including not only buying pens and paper at Office Depot but also the Federal Reserve Bank, failing schools, the New World Order, Woodrow Wilson and the League of Nations, and relationship between the AFL-CIO and the Fabian Socialist movement in England a hundred years ago with security  lock boxes in Cedar Falls Iowa. Most of these issues have only a tangential relationship with Agenda 21 at best- certainly no cause and effect. I will readily accede that the UN has passed an Agenda 21 resolution that promotes sustainability, and that George Bush signed a resolution of support of the concept. It is gaining wide spread support across America and around the globe. There might be some points upon which we disagree.

 

The most widely quoted definition of sustainability and sustainable development is that of the Brundtland Commission of the United Nations on March 20, 1987: “sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs". It appears to me that this idea is consistent with Biblical admonitions for stewardship. Is this contrary to your value system? Is it really a good idea to deprive future generations to support for their own existence through (unnecessary) exploitation of resources?

Comment by Debbie G on February 6, 2012 at 5:12am

Agenda 21 is real.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/04/us/activists-fight-green-projects...

Comment by Karen M on February 5, 2012 at 4:18pm

HOME DEPOT too.

Comment by Karen M on February 5, 2012 at 11:11am

Go to 3:35 - was that a stack and pack unit?

Comment by Karen M on February 5, 2012 at 11:02am

Thanks Debbie! 

Does Gov. Scott seem concerned?

I know it's not good for Florida and so I'm going to make sure we're not giving someone else the power to figure out our destiny. I'm focused on our rights as an individual state. I don't believe the federal government should be telling us what to do and clearly the UN should not be dictating how we build our state.    Governor Rick Scott

If you would like to pull your heads out of the sand and take a couple of minutes to read (in a PDF format, so you can take your HOOTS for shorter periods of time) on Agenda 21.  See link below!

http://www.freedomadvocates.org/images/pdf/The%20Ultimate%20War%20b...

You think you own your land, try not paying your property taxes.

Comment by Debbie G on February 5, 2012 at 7:33am

“The student of true history, which is not a series of disconnected episodes but a flow of policies stemming from philosophies, knows that current events can only be realistically assessed against the background of past ideas and beliefs”  The Fabian Socialist Contribution to the Communist Advance.

Comment by Debbie G on February 5, 2012 at 7:32am

@Paul, my mistake Forever Florida and Florida Forever are two distinct separate entities.  Forever Florida, an ecotourism entity, is not associated with the Florida Forever, a government land acquisition program.  Accurate research is the datum of reliability.

 

Though we have a constitution and it is “supposed” to prevent any state or locale from entering into agreements with foreign entities, such agreements are being made across the nation.  In Cedar Falls, Iowa on May 23^rd, 2011 the city council passed an ordinance to require “lock boxes” on all commercial property under the guise of safety. The citizens vehemently protested this encroachment on their private property.  This may, on its face, appear to be a local city issue, but in fact was part of Agenda 21.

The ordinance is based on International Fire Code (IFC) and supported by the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF), AFL-CIO.  The IAFF out of Chicago lobbied the City Council in Cedar Falls, Iowa to pass this legislation.

 

The AFL-CIO has a long history of promoting a socialist style of production and is working on a global level to gain in this effort.

 

In 1916 the Intercollegiate Socialist Society (ISS) made this statement in their Oct-Nov quarterly: “To be sure, the Socialists have never seen advantage in perpetuating a capitalist state as such; but they usually have seen very great advantage in preserving such of its machinery as can be used in furtherance of the cause of democracy; and in preserving even the capitalist state itself from chaos until it can be conquered from within by the ballot and economic pressure and converted from a capitalist state into a co-operative commonwealth.

 

In 1919 the ISS began to look into partnering with labor and the Fabian Society of London.  The 1919 Socialist Review pointed out the success of England moving towards a socialist style of production “It is control of industry by the producers (including, of course, foremen, managers, draughtsmen, directors, technical advisors). 

The fundamental fact is that the owners of land and capital have lost control of labor.  Labor refuses longer to work under a system of “private enterprise,” and for “private profits.”  The game is up.  Labor demands a transfer of economic power.”

 

I did make a mistake with the Florida Forever, but did not make a mistake with the Agenda 21 issue.  It is real, it is egregious, it is a global effort to control citizens, and it is here in Jacksonville.  I posted this merely for information for those who already have done their homework on Agenda 21.

 

Below is seemingly innocuous letter from the United Nations that aims to foster legislation and regulation to help both the environment and the citizens.  However, it is a “feel good” presentation of Agenda 21 and global control of citizens. 

Commission on Sustainable Development Thirteenth session 11-22 April 2005 Item 4 (c) of the provisional agenda*
Thematic cluster for the implementation cycle 2004-2005 (policy session): human settlements
E/CN.17/2005/4
Distr.: General 9 December 2004
Original: English
Summary
Human settlements: policy options and possible actions to expedite implementation
Report of the Secretary-General
Sustainable human settlements development requires a coherent and proactive policy approach to land use, housing, urban services, infrastructure and environment. While there are many examples worldwide demonstrating the impact of local policies and programmes on reducing urban poverty, faced with the prospect of further growth of slums and informal settlements, the challenge is to find solutions that work at both city and nationwide scales. Where slums and informal settlements host the majority of the rapidly growing urban population, sustainable urban development cannot be separated from

Comment by Paul Davis on February 4, 2012 at 2:22pm

Please do not confuse Forever Florida, a private ecotourism company with Florida Forever, the state program to strategically purchase (mostly otherwise undevelopable land) for conservation and recreation, in order to protect the states natural and cultural resources. The United Nations does not operate either program.

Comment by Paul Davis on February 4, 2012 at 1:55pm

There is an article on FCTP about truth, yet it is ironic to see links to such spurious falsehoods and misinformation regarding Agenda 21, what it is and what it isn't. The United States still operates under its constitution, the United Nations does NOT control the national, state or local governments, people are not being rounded up and placed in interment camps. Wise land use planning did not start in 1992, the idea that our generation should use up all the world's resources and leave nothing for future generations is not a morally superior position, nor is it the vision of the founding fathers. Provision for eminent domain is derived from English common law and was only later incorporated into the US Constition. It was certainly not invented by the UN in 1992. Wise use of community resources is not a socialist plot, and the world did not end in the year 2000 as was projected by many of the same unreliable sources that are now erecting their straw man arguments regarding Agenda 21. It may be time to look at the truth of the matter rather than relying upon falsehoods and distortions being pimped for personal and corporate profit.

 

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