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Are FCTP Members Concerned About Accuracy?
Dear FCTP members,
As an American, I believe in the freedom of speech; we can agree or disagree and often it will be the latter. However, censorship is suspect. Censorship by a blogger on FCTP doesn't surprise me, however, on 25 July 2012, a post appeared on the FCTP site entitled: "Every American To Be Microchipped In 2013 Per Obamacare (Patriot Update)". I posted a response questioning the accuracy of the data presented and it was deleted by the blogger. Yes, I recognize it was the person's right to administrate his blog, but of what was he so afraid?
My response, to the data provided in the above mentioned blog, was as follows: I decided to do some research to discern the validity of the statement. Since it stated this would occur "Per Obamacare in 2013" I first sought out certified documents of the Affordable Healthcare Act (HR 3962) and those documents which were instructive of the FDA's regulations on implantable medical devices. The link provided in the original post for documentation was indicated as: ObamanableCare PDF, which by the description should be a red-flag to all readers as being a bit, shall we say, non-official? In addition, the video provided in the blog showed documents from the FDA (blurry, but still legible if freeze-framed) so I thought this would be important to validate as well.
My research led me to the following sites:
http://housedocs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:/ (Library of Congress)
The next step was a text search of the passed bill for the passages quoted by Paul McGuire, the original author. The text as quoted could NOT be electronically found in the content of these bills and websites. I question, therefore, is the statement "Every American to Be Microchipped in 2013 Per Obamacare" accurate? Could the text be buried within the bill? Possible, but it is not found in an electronic search... If someone can provide proof I would welcome the opportunity to read the documents.
The FDA regulates implantable medical devices. Many of us have such a device, all of which have an identifying number documented in our medical records. That is not news. It has been done since long before President Obama came on the political scene. http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm148010.htm (Food & Drug Admin.)
My original post to the above blog was deleted several times, and then the text was manipulated and reinserted upside down in a pathetic attempt to discredit my post. Sophmoric? Censorship? You decide.
I have now been called "Leftie Lizzie" by several, to include following, "Lizzie Leftie's insistence on hijacking this thread has got my curiosity about what she must be so afraid of being told. If the establishment and Lizzie Leftie don't like it, it is probably true." Perhaps, I like accuracy in documentation and concerned the post may NOT be true... I am more "afraid" of individuals with a desire to post items which are geared more to incite than to be insightful, false rather than true. Perhaps I don't believe everything found on the Internet, and hope others would question and research?
There are members (less than 10 out of 7300+) who regularly post comments, personal in nature about several members, which is their right, yes indeed, thanks to the freedom of speech! Yet they cry foul if someone thinks the non-stop dialogue on guns (who do they plan on shooting?), and campaigning sounds a tad extreme.. IMHO, they seek to silence any who disagree.
Information regarding Paul McGuire, (the original author from what is able to be tracked on the Internet of the "Microchip" blog, and the source is included), is as follows and I must wonder, is he simply attempting to sell his book? Kudos for capitalism, shame for untruths?" At fifteen years old, Paul was demonstrating with radical activist Abbie Hoffman and made an honorary member of the Black Panther Party. However, while studying “Altered States of Consciousness” at the University of Missouri, Paul had a miraculous experience hitchhiking in a remote area similar to the movie “Field of Dreams.” Paul re-thought his socialist and humanist world view and rejected it as completely false. Paul has devoted his life to communicating truth to people." (Link: http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul135.htm )
The FCTP website is a strong tool to inform and engage in discussion. However, if items posted are false, or at least suspect, how does it impact the content of this website and its' goals for the future.
Was the original post accurate? Is that important to the FCTP organization?
FYI.. "Leftie Lizzie" is a registered Independent, private sector business owner and not a "leftie", "liberal" or any of the other charming adjectives the members here have used...
P.S. ... since my original deleted post, articles have appeared on the Internet questioning the 'breaking news' story of the original post.. SO, I guess I am not the only one who doubted...
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Comment by Lizzie on October 14, 2012 at 8:57pm
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Good things come to those who wait...
See some of the children have left....
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Comment by Helen on August 16, 2012 at 8:02pm
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I would agree with your point on something originating on Russia Today. I don't give a two hoots about what the Russians think about us in some video. Doubt it would be unbiased.
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Helen, it is the internet. Must accept there are a few angry people who will lash out.. and yes, patience is good.
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Lizzie, I am new here.. been reading the blogs. I would hope to find the information has been verified before it was published so I find your post interesting. It is always a good idea to check items out for oneself. However, it seems like you hit a nerve with a few. Public discussion is always difficult, and patience is usually helpful.
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Does it bother anyone (other than me) to find RT.com (Russia Today) being used as a "source" for information here on the Tea Party site? Yes, members do have a right to have their opinions and their ideas. However, there is some question whether RT is state funded (Putin?), that it is anti-American and that it has its ties to the Kremlin/Russian government.
Why trust or believe RT.com any more than NPR (which I dont' trust at all) ??
Is the FCTP opening the doors to Russian commentary? I suppose that is truly free speech.
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Let's unite our country to defeat Obama... unless causing chaos is one's goal.
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When I see comments in blogs on the FCTP such as the following, it makes me wonder if there are members who's main purpose may be to cause chaos here and to encourage others to vote for Obama? Each time a member questions their postings, or disagrees with certain statements, we get things like this:...
""We have seen this tactic before.
The infiltrators say things like Paul is saying (doubt you are qualified to question), and then when you try to protect yourself, they use that as an excuse to delete the whole thread rather than the actual verbal diarrhea. Protect yourself, but be careful.""
To my knowledge, there is only one reason a thread is deleted... the language breaks the TOS of the FCTP.
And to members, I ask, who is one person to constantly refer to other members' posts as "verbal diarrhea"? Perhaps in the continual referrals to "infiltrators" the truth is that person is the infiltrator? Maybe.. maybe not...
In addition, that same thread has a link posted which contains language that is offensive to the Mormon religion. Is THAT what is really their hatred toward Romney? Relgious bias? Just saying..
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I am curious if comments with 'sources' linked to the http://www.rlc.org/ are unbiased. Afterall, one primary candidate is a founder.. I guess it depends on the point of view...
Voters will decide.
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few more items in reference to Paul Ryan.. Positive, in my personal opinion. Voters must decide.
- Rated 100% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-life stance. (Dec 2006)
- Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)
- Bar funding for abortion under federal Obamacare plans. (Jul 2010)
- Prohibit federal funding for abortion. (May 2011)
- Congress shall protect life beginning with fertilization. (Jan 2011)
- Prohibit federal funding to groups like Planned Parenthood. (Jan 2011)
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To be balanced, a few things which may be viewed as positive in reference to Paul Ryan. Not endorsing him, nor Romney... each voter gets to decide.
- Voted NO on $40B for green public schools. (May 2009)
- Voted NO on additional $10.2B for federal education & HHS projects. (Nov 2007)
- Voted NO on allowing Courts to decide on "God" in Pledge of Allegiance. (Jul 2006)
- Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges. (Mar 2006)
- Voted YES on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. (Nov 2001)
- Voted YES on requiring states to test students. (May 2001)
- Voted NO on $2 billion more for Cash for Clunkers program. (Jul 2009)
- Voted NO on $9.7B for Amtrak improvements and operation thru 2013. (Jun 2008)
- Voted NO on increasing AMTRAK funding by adding $214M to $900M. (Jun 2006)
- Voted NO on barring website promoting Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump. (May 2006)
- Voted YES on deauthorizing "critical habitat" for endangered species. (Sep 2005)
- Voted YES on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects. (Nov 2003)
Voted YES on opening Outer Continental Shelf to oil drilling. (May 2011)
Voted YES on barring EPA from regulating greenhouse gases. (Apr 2011
- Voted NO on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009)
- Voted NO on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008)
- Voted NO on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (May 2008)
- Voted NO on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008)
- Voted NO on investing in homegrown biofuel. (Aug 2007)
- Voted YES on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007)
- Voted NO on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)
- Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)
- Voted YES on authorizing construction of new oil refineries. (Oct 2005)
- Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy. (Jun 2004)
- Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. (Nov 2003)
- Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
- Voted NO on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)
Source: http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/
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