Are FCTP Members Concerned About Accuracy?

Dear FCTP members,

As an American, I believe in the freedom of speech; we can agree or disagree and often it will be the latter.  However, censorship is suspect.  Censorship by a blogger on FCTP doesn't surprise me, however, on 25 July 2012, a post appeared on the FCTP site entitled: "Every American To Be Microchipped In 2013 Per Obamacare (Patriot Update)".  I posted a response questioning the accuracy of the data presented and it was deleted by the blogger.  Yes, I recognize it was the person's right to administrate his blog, but of what was he so afraid?  

My response, to the data provided in the above mentioned blog, was as follows:  I decided to do some research to discern the validity  of the statement.   Since it stated this would occur "Per Obamacare in 2013"  I first sought out certified documents of the Affordable Healthcare Act (HR 3962) and those documents which were instructive of the FDA's regulations on implantable medical devices.  The link provided in the original post for documentation was indicated as: ObamanableCare PDF, which by the description should be a red-flag to all readers as being a bit, shall we say, non-official?   In addition, the video provided in the blog showed documents from the FDA (blurry, but still legible if freeze-framed) so I thought this would be important to validate as well.  

My research led me to the following sites:   

http://housedocs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:/ (Library of Congress)

The next step was a text search of the passed bill for the passages quoted by Paul McGuire, the original author.  The text as quoted could NOT be electronically found in the content of these bills and websites.  I question, therefore, is the statement "Every American to Be Microchipped in 2013 Per Obamacare" accurate? Could the text be buried within the bill?  Possible, but it is not found in an electronic search...  If someone can provide proof I would welcome the opportunity to read the documents. 

The FDA regulates implantable medical devices.  Many of us have such a device, all of which have an identifying number documented in our medical records. That is not news.  It has been done since long before President Obama came on the political scene.    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm148010.htm (Food & Drug Admin.)

 

My original post to the above blog was deleted several times, and then the text was manipulated and reinserted upside down in a pathetic attempt to discredit my post.  Sophmoric? Censorship? You decide.

I have now been called "Leftie Lizzie"  by several, to include following, "Lizzie Leftie's  insistence on hijacking this thread has got my curiosity about what she must be so afraid of being told.  If the establishment and  Lizzie Leftie don't like it, it is probably true."    Perhaps, I like accuracy in documentation and concerned the post may NOT be true... I am more "afraid" of individuals with a desire to post items which are geared more to incite than to be insightful, false rather than true.  Perhaps I don't believe everything found on the Internet, and hope others would question and research?  

There are members (less than 10 out of 7300+) who regularly post comments, personal in nature about several members, which is their right, yes indeed, thanks to the freedom of speech! Yet they cry foul if someone thinks the non-stop dialogue on guns (who do they plan on shooting?), and campaigning sounds a tad extreme..  IMHO, they seek to silence any who disagree.   

Information regarding Paul McGuire, (the original author from what is able to be tracked on the Internet of the "Microchip" blog, and the source is included), is as follows and I must wonder, is he simply attempting to sell his book?  Kudos for capitalism, shame for untruths? 

" At fifteen years old, Paul was demonstrating with radical activist Abbie Hoffman and made an honorary member of the Black Panther Party. However, while studying “Altered States of Consciousness” at the University of Missouri, Paul had a miraculous experience hitchhiking in a remote area similar to the movie “Field of Dreams.” Paul re-thought his socialist and humanist world view and rejected it as completely false. Paul has devoted his life to communicating truth to people."       (Link: http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul135.htm )

The FCTP website is a strong tool to inform and engage in discussion.  However, if items posted are false, or at least suspect, how does it impact the content of this website and its' goals for the future.  

Was the original post accurate? Is that important to the FCTP organization?

FYI.. "Leftie Lizzie" is a registered Independent, private sector business owner and not a "leftie", "liberal" or any of the other charming adjectives the members here have used...  

P.S.  ... since my original deleted post, articles have appeared on the Internet questioning the 'breaking news' story of the original post.. SO, I guess I am not the only one who doubted...

 

 

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Comment by Lizzie on August 12, 2012 at 7:17am

"A wise man is superior to any insults which can be put upon him, and the best reply to unseemly behavior is patience and moderation." ... Moliere

Comment by Lizzie on August 11, 2012 at 10:47am

Of course, if one crosses the line of decency.. perhaps there should be "consequences"???

Comment by Lizzie on August 11, 2012 at 10:43am

HW - you are correct.  However, you know I believe in freedom of speech and sometimes one needs to let a person have their air time, and it is that persons' words which show their true character.   The post shows his character, not mine.

I may not be chronologically the age of others (I am guessing), but I, too, am on the "short side of life" as a cancer survivor.  EVERY day is a gift from God to me, there is no gaurantee for my future - so THAT part of the post is most inaccurate.  

I don't care if I have a month, a year or a decade or two to make a difference or see the "consequences"- I will fight to get my country back from Obama. 

The old saying goes.."If life hands you lemons, make lemonade."  Well, if life surrounds you with sour grapes, grab some sugar and make the best..    And I firmly believe the best is yet to come.      

Comment by H W Schroeder AXCS(AW) USNRET on August 11, 2012 at 6:40am

Lizzie, You do NOT have to suffer comments like being 'stupid, a fraud or intellectually unable to defend your positions'. None of what is happening now will have an effect on folks who are on their 'short side of life'. I fit that cateory too. My concern is the long term consequences on my children and grandchildren! with the liberal or apathetic yoke!

Comment by Lizzie on August 10, 2012 at 8:18pm

No you see, Mr. Stump... your continued personal attacks are exactly what is wrong here.. Your intent to cause dissension... divide, distract, conquer.  All of your posts have been put up..

Me think you doth protest too much.. but thanks for showing your true colors, sir.

Comment by Lizzie on August 10, 2012 at 8:13pm

The sun shines and warms and lights us and we have no curiosity to know why this is so; but we ask the reason of all evil, of pain, and hunger, and mosquitoes and silly people.  ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

Comment by Lizzie on August 10, 2012 at 7:43pm

Wondering what was said that is politically correct... or if courtesy was taught back in the old days...  

Comment by Lizzie on August 10, 2012 at 4:13pm

Sadly, members of the FCTP are now posting comments on other blogs which are very negative toward the FCTP and Ms. King...  Leanne does so much work for the TP... There is so much misguided anger...

Is it possible the Pualistas wanted to take over the blog conversations and found members who would rather defeat Obama.  Not sure, just my humble opinon. 

Comment by Lizzie on August 9, 2012 at 8:39pm

Just to clarify the "approval" thing.. 

Leanne, in her role as whatever her title is in FCTP, suggested that anyone who authors a blog which is put up for members to view, has the option on their privacy settings to request "approval" prior to comments appearing to all.   Her hope was to maintain some level of courtesy and a more positive image?

Comment by Lizzie on August 9, 2012 at 7:53pm

you see Ken, your very thoughtful post is below.. no censoring happening here. I will let others decide the value, not I.

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