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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on June 26, 2011 at 1:58pm

Jim, I am somewhat confused by your post.  Are you saying we should drag others from outside Jacksonville into this??  I think a number of people are cc=ing state ethics and others of interest related to this.  You sem to be a good speaker.  You wouldn't be willing to take on one of these bills before the council, would you if you plan to go on Tuesday?  Heaven knows there are enough of the bills to go around, and the more the merrier.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on June 26, 2011 at 1:52pm

a lawless dictatorial panel!

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on June 26, 2011 at 1:51pm

CJ, the thing that I feel and it is true.  What we have are a group who give us 3 minutes to speak on the issues and we can send them Emails, but in the end, they do as they wish and cast any rule or law aside that doesn't meet their agenda.  The thing is the state has laws so everyone in the state is reading from the same page more or less, and what defines a civilized society are the rules and laws that are followed by everyone equally.  Obviously the executive branch in Washington sees no need to adher to the law, but by not following the laws and by ignoring, for the most part, what the taxpayer says, the city council as a whole is nothing more than a dictatorial panel (understand that comment does not apply to those who have been fighting to do the right thing and some members of the council are law abiding, honest and ethical mostly).

Comment by CJ on June 26, 2011 at 1:00pm

Ms. McBride you are awesome! lots of time involved.

I have been pouring over florida statutes too and have much to share with Council including JEDC power in contracts removing Council and the Planning and development dept. from all equations.

The document house Bill 7207 has almost 200 pages and ive read it 4 times in two days then when I needed more info within a statute I read those too.

Regardless of the changes being made this month our local laws are still bound to them and there are many old and knew that have been discarded and or failed to be waived to legally break the law.

The way I see it the enterprise zone expansion can not be done, for various reasons, too many to put here but a few are 1) a requirement for the zones to be contiguous. three of them are not, two of them are connected by roads and not acceptable.(something smells fishy?)

2) Prior to any expansion the comprehensive plan must be amended  to accommodate those changes as well as land use plans, master plans, etc, because it is a substantial deviation, which it has not!

3) The expansion also goes directly against urban infill(we are being so heavily taxed for and being used against us in Everbank) and redevelopment and promotes the proliferation of urban sprawl.

 

Heres the kicker I will bring try to make apparent to Council, Kamen is already in the proposed Imeson Ind. Park which is not connected to any existing EZ and there is no coincidence Bill 383 expands the the zone to cover them and Bill 384 gives Brownfield, EZ, grant, funds including, get this...another loan! called Recapture Enhanced Value Grant that if not paid back by Kamen the city will make the payment. JEDC sponsored the Bill for Kamen and if that doesnt reek of special interest please let me know cuz Im thinking it does.

384 cannot pass with out 383 and 383 is against the law

 

Comment by Jim Ryan on June 26, 2011 at 12:51pm

• Dear PM, CJ and Charles White,  Your outstanding work and dogged determination is to be commended on behalf of the issues surrounding the council's brazen end run, misguidance of
• and misuse of authority, flippant attitude, and illegal dealings.  As you and others look to gain additional traction I submit that we look to counter their play with offensive tactics of our own. Perhaps we should consider the following strategy which will quickly cast Jacksonville into a national spotlight of embarassment and shame ( from those involved in the leadership of city government).  It appears that their tactics are "we will get to do what we want despite your efforts, so get out of our way."   Perhaps we need to identify every religious mosque in the city and look to create the following situation highlighted by this "Tolerance" agenda.  We/ You have consistently battled them on a "single front" and perhaps it is time to increase the stakes and begin to battle them using a multi flank theater of operations.   One to consider is this:
• Tolerance

  I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against a mosque being built at Ground
  Zero. I think it should be the goal of every American to be tolerant. Thus, the Mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
  That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque. We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, "The Turban Cowboy," and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me
  Hot."  Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called "Iraq o' Ribs."

  Across the street there could be a lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret," with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods.
  Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge," its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called
  "Morehammered."
  All of this would encourage the Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so the mosque problem would be solved. If you agree with promoting tolerance, and you think this is a good plan, please pass it on.
• I would also suggest that we demand that zero to very low government SBA and "to big to fail" Banks be required to give us the money to start these business as part of their Stimulus programs with the money they are saving for the 2012 election cycle.  These businesses will
• create jobs in an economy that needs them.  These businesses will also ask for waivers going forward to exempt them from inclusion in any health reform package ( Obama Care).
• We can invite national news and conservative blogging groups to report on our progress and they can begin an active campaign to follow up with the city council and mayors administration through the email, phone and contact information which the 3 of you have provided throughout this informative blog.  Make local - National and see what transpires.  
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  Let's add an antique store and call it
  Bin there, Bin
  Laden.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on June 26, 2011 at 12:06pm

CJ, I spotted the same thing and sent it to you in the rules for the council.  I was looking for a couple of things you mentioned to give you the actual rule and wording to use, and found several other things.........some related and some not........like Jack chairing the committee of the whole which he was supposed to name a chair for and stand aside for the named chair to chair the committee of the whole.  Not related certainly......but it jumped right out at me.

 

RULE 2.105 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
In all cases the Council may resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole, and in such event the President shall leave the chair after appointing a chair to preside, who shall have all the powers and duties of a presiding officer. Bills and other matters referred to a Committee of the Whole shall be considered under the rules of procedure prescribed for committees of the Council, and shall be reported in the same manner as reports of standing committees. After report, the bill or other matter may again be debated and amended. The quorum for a Committee of the Whole shall be fourteen, and when the Committee of the Whole rises, the roll shall be called to ascertain the presence of a quorum of the Council. No bill may be considered by a Committee of the Whole except by a two thirds vote, unless the same has first been considered and reported by the appropriate standing committee or committees; and the effect of referring a bill to the Committee of the Whole by a two thirds vote shall be to discharge any standing, special or select committee to which the bill may have been referred from further consideration thereof, whether or not such committee may have reported said bill.

Comment by CJ on June 26, 2011 at 11:29am

The below florida statute is one of the laws not adhered to for everbank, kamen, and enterprise zone expansion and will most definitely bring to their attn.

Comment by CJ on June 26, 2011 at 11:25am

Here is what I think can at least delay everbank

 

Title XI COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS Chapter 163  INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROGRAMS View Entire Chapter

163.2517 Designation of urban infill and redevelopment area.— (1) A local government may designate a geographic area or areas within its jurisdiction as an urban infill and redevelopment area for the purpose of targeting economic development, job creation, housing, transportation, crime prevention, neighborhood revitalization and preservation, and land use incentives to encourage urban infill and redevelopment within the urban core.

Title XI COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS Chapter 163  INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROGRAMS View Entire Chapter

163.3164 Local Government Comprehensive Planning and Land Development Regulation Act; definitions.—As used in this act:

(15) A “newspaper of general circulation” means a newspaper published at least on a weekly basis and printed in the language most commonly spoken in the area within which it circulates, but does not include a newspaper intended primarily for members of a particular professional or occupational group, a newspaper whose primary function is to carry legal notices, or a newspaper that is given away primarily to distribute advertising.

House Bill 7207 just revised this Bill June 2,2011 and the definition for newspaper of general circulation is now #31

Comment by CJ on June 25, 2011 at 10:00am

Mr White... this for your friend and "we" the effected person(s)

Administrative challenges to comprehensive plans and plan amendments. (all new language)

1. This process replaces the provisions of §163.3184(9) and (10)
2. Any “affected person” (the definition of which did not change) may file a petition with the Division of Administrative Hearing, pursuant to ss. 120.569 and 120.57, with a copy served on the affected local government, within 30 days after the local government adopts the plan or amendment, to request a formal hearing to challenge whether the plan or plan amendments are “in compliance,” as defined in the section. (§163.3184(5)(a), F.S.)
   1. The state land planning agency may not intervene in this proceeding. (§163.3184(5)(a), F.S.)
   2. Due to the timing deadlines, an affected person wishing to file may not know the state land planning agency’s decision on whether the amendment is in compliance before the filing deadline.

Comment by CJ on June 25, 2011 at 8:58am

Dear Ms McBride and Mr. White surely you dont think it is you I am referring to.

Your involvement is above and beyond the call of duty.

Ms McBride you should shut off your computer now and walk away until another day and go play.

my last date was at the shooting range. How cool is that! Probably need to go now.  ;)

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