The Battle of Athens: Restoring the Rule of Law

The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local go...

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Comment by Roma and Tom on March 4, 2012 at 5:23am

Comment by Roma and Tom on March 2, 2012 at 7:09am

P.S.  Mr. Griffin says the Founders had it wrong when they did not make the constitution list our freedoms.  He says  that would make  the Constitution a positive document rather than a negative one. The constitution may have given the government a little too much power (exp the power to tax property).  But it was not written to grant the people freedoms, it was written to restrict the government, and leave the rest to the people and the States.

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Otherwise the Constitution would have become outdated rather quickly.   The internet allows the people more freedom, but in the Constitution (as the Founders wrote it) the restrictions on government in that venue remains the same...hands off unless a crime is committed (someone is harmed).  So I agree with much of what Mr. Griffin says, but he has some things wrong.

Comment by Roma and Tom on March 2, 2012 at 6:11am

This was my comment in the Rubio discussion, but it is also pertinent to this conversation as well:

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Voting records show that most of the candidates the  Tea Party recently sent to D.C.  are also now corrupted by the system...voting for the Patriot Act Extension, National Defense Authorization Act, raising the debt ceiling, HR 347, ext.

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One of the reasons for this is what  you mention.  The people have not done their own research.  Another important one is as follows;

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The easiest organizational structure to corrupt is the pyramid structure.  That is why the founders had power distributed throughout.  The people were to be represented in the Congress, the States in the Senate (Woodrow Wilson destroyed that one with the 17th amendment), then the executive and judicial branches.  Another important part of the Constitution that was intended to maintain a balance of power was one of the powers delegated to congress.

5. To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; (Woodrow Wilson destroyed that with the creation of the Federal Reserve.)

 

The balanced  control of our money was so important that they also wrote the Coinage Act Of 1792 of which few are even aware of http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/coinage1792.txt.  (LBJ destroyed this one by devaluing our coinage, )

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Thus we now have a pyramid structure with increasing power in the hands of too few... So until we restore the balance of power as the Founders created, we can only slow things down, but not turn them around.

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voting records show that Ron Paul is one of the few politicions that has not been corrupted by the system.  It is plain, clear, and in open sight for all to see.  But the propaganda they have been feed for so many years clouds what is in plain sight.

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It is said that our ideas become part of our ego, and we will defend them as if we were defending our very lives.  We will defend them even if they are harmful ideas.  That is why will often see people repeatedly finding themselves in abusive relationships.

Comment by Roma and Tom on March 1, 2012 at 4:40pm

Mr. Griffin in the video said to work for positions of power, but did not clearly define that in his video.  But I did find more specifics on his website.  Mr. Griffin appears to be working on an international level, while Ron Paul focuses on the U.S.

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedom.cfm?fuseaction=act...

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It looks also like Ron Paul differs with Mr. Griffin on the Constitution a bit.

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So there are similarities, but differences as well between Ron Paul and Mr. Griffin

Comment by Steven D.Upshaw on March 1, 2012 at 1:11pm

By pure accident one day the opponents of freedom let the cat out of the bag and some of the American people got a wiff of the coffee and didn't like what was being brewed and out of that the Tea Parties across America sprang up. It is very important that the Tea Party grows in power we must fight our opponents with every resource available. All of this political correctness garbage is just that. Our opponents don't mind getting a little for that matter alot nasty when it suits them case in point Maxine Waters. It is fine for her to put out all that hate speech but let someone who doesn't agree with her or Al Sharton say something and they pull out the race card. I don't know for sure but I would be willing to bet that both of them are members of the America Democatic Socialist Party.

Comment by Steven D.Upshaw on March 1, 2012 at 12:43pm

Roma if you listen to the video at about min. 55 he begins to explain the plan of action. Although he explains it when he starts talking about how the marxist lininist taking over the power structures of a country and what we must do is to take back those power structures or eliminate them. He speaks of labor unions,educational boards, and social programs as power structures. What he speaks of is all in Ron Pauls plan to recapture America. It is all right there just listen to him and compare what he says to what Dr. Pauls says it all makes sense. The biggest problem is to get people involved in the fight. As he says the opponents have a big head start. People must be educated and people that truely believe in freedom must be put back into power.

Comment by Roma and Tom on March 1, 2012 at 10:50am

Juan, that is a good video well worth taking the time to watch.  I agreed with most of what he said, but I have some questions.

  • I know that one video cannot answer every question.  But he says we need to recapture the ship, but he did not give an action plan.  What is it?
  • How long has this movement been around, and how effective has it been?
Comment by Steven D.Upshaw on February 29, 2012 at 10:37pm

Roma thanks for your post I have not read it all yet but I will there is alot to take in at those sites. Juan your post is one that everyone should listen to it will give them the power and the know how to fight the growing power of globalism. I agree with what is said there 100% and that is why I preach about Ron Paul. All of the candidates seeking the Republican nomination are globalist except Dr. Paul he is the only one that has a real plan that will save this country. The rest of them talk about smaller govenrment but their real adgenda is to get a piece of the pie. Not one of them have talked about ending programs that are putting power in the hands of the government and taking power away from the people. Really people you must look at who you are voting for. It is easy to stand in front of a bunch of people and say we need more jobs and a better economy but if they are not willing to end the programs that give the government its power they are part of the problem.

Comment by Steven D.Upshaw on February 29, 2012 at 5:28pm

I do not know about everybody else but my guns like my freedoms will not be taken easily. Laws made by man are exactly that " mans laws". Freedom and the right to defend ones self is a right given to man by our creator. Every man on this planet puts his pants on just like I do he can make the choices that he or she feels is best for them I will do as I always have and decide what is best for me. If our government passes laws that I can not live with then I will just be an outlaw. No man is better than his brother.

Comment by Roma and Tom on February 29, 2012 at 3:12pm

P.S. if one hovers their mouse over the words, they can find links to all the documentation.  However pay particular attention to the IMF link: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2007/12/boughton.htm.  and the link to the article at this link: http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/social.htm 

It is clearly spelled out for us, all we have to do is connect the dots.

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