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Comment by Maxine Jessica Roberts on July 5, 2012 at 6:33pm

Patricia the majority of prisoners in the us are there for non violent crimes. And forced to work hard labor for less than minimum wage. They are in jail because of shitty prosecutors scarring them into plea bargains. Meaning they are in jail without a trial by jury.

Comment by amanda choate on July 5, 2012 at 6:28pm

Nice refutation Ken, you are a regular Cambridge debate team fellow. Ken make point, it may be amatuerish to do so but try anyway. I made my point, either counter it with a reasoned position or acknowledge my superior position. Dismissing it without a valid position makes you appear feeble minded and weak.

Comment by amanda choate on July 5, 2012 at 6:19pm

Patricia, I realize that you bandy about the word stupid alot but what you say about private companies running prisons at a profit is a true point of genius. They turn a profit by not paying their employees a decent wage, or by underserving their population, or by overcharging the state, or a combination of all of these. And it is taxpayers who pay them their profit. So it comes out of your pocket. Glad you are happy about that.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 5, 2012 at 6:03pm

Do not talk about people in prison for murder and heaven know what like they are slaves. That is about the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard Max (but thank you for actually joining the conversation). Prisons are run by organizations that are in the private sector, because they can run them at a profit instead of at a loss (like all government entities which seem to have an aversion to breaking even or coming in under cost..............politicians were never the sharpest tools in the shed or they would have actually worked in the chosen profession, but instead decided to help the rest of us out by living off the public dole and making all the rules....and there are many.... that the rest of us live by). Unfortunately, as we have all noticed, we have a group of over paid public servants locally that get recycled over and over and over again, and have become wealthly beyond belief through their recycle.

Comment by amanda choate on July 5, 2012 at 4:41pm

Ken, Brown v Board was "technically" a civil rights case. Are you insane? No seriously, are you insane? No case prior stated that all citizens of this country were born to a shared circumstance. We are all equal under the law. The ruling set forth by the Fifth Circuit, unprecented, yet so deeply rooted within the construct of our Constitution, provided no relief other than enactment. It gave no quarter to those who said that one child deserved a better education because of the color of their skin. Whereas Plessy v Ferguson furthered the notion of two classes of people and that the law would serve them differently.

As to MLK's party affiliation, it was Johnson who got the votes for the Civil Rights Act of '64. In fact Johnson said afterwards that Democrats had lost the South for a generation, he was overly optimistic.

Here are some MLK quotes:

King claimed that the "good and just society is neither the thesis of capitalism nor the antithesis of communism, but a socially conscious democracy which reconciles the truths of individualism and collectivism."

An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity
Read more at

But Ken, answer this question, when did you decide to be straight? Was there a day that provided a tipping point, maybe you were rejected by some boy and decided to go straight? For me, there was never a point where I decided to be straight, I just was. I find hard to believe that with all the benefits of being gay more people aren't choosing this life.

Comment by Maxine Jessica Roberts on July 5, 2012 at 4:02pm

If you want to talk about slavery. Why are there for profit prisons.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 5, 2012 at 2:26pm

He was not only a republican, he was a conservative who recognized that food stamps and welfare were ruining the black family.............and still blacks chase after the democrats like they are their friends as the man in the white house murders more black babies in the womb than any other group in this country.  Shame of black families for allowing the federal government to do it to them, and shame on the blacks in this country for letting the democrats use the Martin Luther King name (he did not agree with their philosophy or their ideology and some of the worst offenders are folks who would have GREATLY disagreed with).  He wanted to save black families, get them equal rights fully, and get them working and on their own way to the American dream as self sufficient, upwardly mobile Americans.......not in the welfare and food stamps lines where the democrats have kept them.

Comment by amanda choate on July 5, 2012 at 12:32pm

....so according to Florida law if someone comes into your business and begins preaching from the Koran there is nothing you can do because in Florida, we have decided that property rights are lesser than the Bill of Rights.The First Amendment trumps your property rights.

Comment by amanda choate on July 5, 2012 at 12:29pm

Ken, I attended a symposium conducted by Justice Minor Wisdom, who sat on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals and who ruled on Brown V Board. So I do have some expertise in this regard. And this is a civil rights discussion, it is not about property rights, we, in Florida have already surrendered our property rights to other rights. To wit, in Florida, a business owner cannot prevent weapons from being brought into his business. So in essence all of our property rights are subservient to other rights.

Comment by Maxine Jessica Roberts on July 4, 2012 at 8:53pm

Ken as you don't really know me I'll accept your ignorance.

I can get a 40\40 with an M1 garand. I played football and baseball on teams. Ieven hit a grand slam in a game.

I lifted weights, dated girls.

My dad took me hunting, Ive hunted deer, quail, pheasants squirrels , crows.

I owned a ak47 and an sks.

I've been deep sea fishing. I've gutted fish shark birds

Ive faught a lot.
as far as upbringings go. I was raised hard core male. I loved my dad for any time I got to spend with him even if it was sitting in a tree at camp blabbering and never seeing a deer to shoot.

None of that made me feel any more male. If anything it was all to spend time with my dad and make him proud I regretted the day I told him I felt like a girl and he stopped talking to me. Nothing he could have done beyond killing me would have stoped me doing what I've done.

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