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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 3:58pm

AGree Roma.  I certainly don't want to do that either, but I will not be forced to feel sorry for someone who is already doing enough of it for himself.  There are disabled people who lives are so badly effected, and each and every day they get up and move on.  Look at some of the injured military members and the loss of arms and legs, burns and things so horrible we can only imagine, and they get up, dust themselves off, and get back to the business of living after an uphill battle to overcome the wounds.  We should be thinking about the 2,000 young men and women who have lost their lives fighting recent wars and of all those who have come back wounded, and never ask for sympathy..............

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 3:07pm

You can take your phobic word and tuck it.  I am really sick of you saying I am afraid of you ergo that's why I don't accept you as your are.  I am not afraid of you and don't you darn well dare get off thinking you are some kind of shrink who knows me or what I am thinking and the folks on the wack job human rights council can take it and tuck it too for their phobic crap.  Quite truthfully, I already know more about you than I EVER wanted to and certainly never asked for you to tell me all about your issues.  This has nothing to do with me, and that is what is wrong.  You are jamming you down everyone's throat and even trying to make it legal for you to do something to me that no one else has a right to do.  You have decided we should all hold hands and be friends.  Understand.  It isn't going to happen.  I already have friends and we do not sit around talking  about sex non stop like you do.  All you think about is you, you, you, and your issues and it is all you talk about.......poor little me; no one understands me, so I will force them to listen to poor little me and all my problems................get the heck over it; I don't care to know all about you or the horse you rode in on...........get a life and live it like the rest of us do and like many, many gay people do............no one does what you are doing!  And if I did the same thing, the folks that are on here, would shut me out.  You want to hear all about my doctor's appointments or my marital problems or my bad childhood or my ???? (examples only and no problems guys)   You name it, because what you are doing is not different.  You just like to think it is, because you are all about you and your "special" problem!  I am an older person, so maybe I could bitch morning night and noon about that and complain about all my problems?????  And don't you label the tea party either.   We have not said one thing out of the way at the council or on this site.  We have discussed the issues with this bill and the fact there isn't a problem in our city and MOST gays live her happily and are respected and successful members of the communities they live in............but most of them have a life; you don't seem to.

Comment by Maxine Jessica Roberts on July 3, 2012 at 2:52pm

Patricia, most of my comments that you are saying I am directing specifically at you are not directed at you, but the tea party as a whole. It is called an "Understood You." meaning it assumes a collective you of all commentary targets. 

Patricia Said this: >And I agree if we allow men to use the ladies room and woman to use the men's room because of some belief they are having about God making a mistake when he decided what sex they were to be

Just to answer you specifically Pat. This has nothing to do with god. Trans* people, once they understand their own condition, never blame God, or say he made a mistake.

I posted this video in another thread, but I figured I'd re-post it so you could watch. It explains the differences in Neurology, Hormones, and Psychology that can affect the development of a child that will eventually identify as Trans* 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOY3QH_jOtE&feature=player_embe...

Science states that the hormones given to the fetus in the uterus affect the fetus' development. If it gets too much estrogen during a phase when the brain is being formed, then the brain may exhibit more feminine physical traits. More testosterone means more masculine physical traits in the brain. All of this is independent of the gonads developed by the child. 

So a child may have had feminine hormone exposure during brain development, but then male hormone exposure during gonad development. The end result is a child who has a female shaped and wired brain, with a male body pumping alien hormones through the body and into the brain. 

Ultimately the child starts to feel weird getting progressively worst as they age. They may exclaim before puberty, just as puberty starts, or just after it starts, that they feel wrong, alien, they dont feel comfortable. 

Most children hide this feeling from their parents because of abuse inflicted on them when they act out on these feelings. They hate themselves because they don't feel real. Then they get onto a hormone replacement therapy and they start to feel normal, their body goes to proper body shape, (Girls growing hips and breast, boys dropping their voice and growing body hair.) experiancing what is essentially a second puberty. 

When you say the things like what you have said in that post, that is transphobia. Because you are expressing an a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it. You also refuse to educate yourself about issues around that phobia and refuse to try and understand those issues. 

This lack of education and understand then affects the things you say dealing with the subject and makes you look uneducated and hateful. 

When you constantly refer to a transwoman as "Male, He, or It" you are exhibiting your fear of them by using demoralizing words that negate their experience. 


Hatred isn't born it is taught, the reason I keep coming here to try and teach you about trans* issues is because you keep disrespecting trans* people and their experiences. 

Yes Patricia this whole comment was directly aimed at you, but it also affects others here who have done the same thing, including some of you who call me "he, man, male, it." And you have. And that is disrespectful to me, as I present my self as female, I appear female, I look female. 

I don't have a "5'oclock shadow" I spent a lot of money on laser hair removal, not to. (out of my pocket, not on health insurance.) and I've spent even more money on hormones and doctors (again out of my pocket not on health insurance.) to look female. Presenting to you how I feel inside. 

When you negate all of that experience, effort, time and money by calling me He. It is intentional, and it is hurtful.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 2:02pm

PS John.  Love the cartoon..........don't know where you find them!

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 2:00pm

For the type of things Obama wants to do, he must kill morals and religion wholly. He is going to have a country where we kill babies in the womb and euthanize old people. He has not convictions, morals or anything that would make someone a human being, and he wants to turn everyone into a carbon copy of himself inside. And I agree if we allow men to use the ladies room and woman to use the men's room because of some belief they are having about God making a mistake when he decided what sex they were to be, then what is next and considering all the changes Obama has made, this garbage is anticlimatic.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 1:29pm

No one is bashing Max, and I take offence at that remark. Max came on here and made the remark about us all being too phobic and calling gays pedaphiles. No one has called gays pedaphiles that I notice on this blog or any other blog on the site? We discussed how this law could be used by pedaphiles to defend them being some where they aren't supposed to be. I also note that the word phobic is right out of the human rights council, Delaney, liberal playbook any time you disagree about someone or something they want you to accept without question. It is kind of a "catch all" word that allows them to label you as the problem without ever having to admit, the problem may not be you at all or that you are entitled to an opinion that differs from theirs.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 12:57pm

And as far as my saying I wouldn't comment and now you are mad I have.  Max's comment brought me back.  Max is way off base, and everyone can change their mind about doing something they said they wouldn't although it doesn't happen often where I am concerned.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 12:53pm

Jay, how about 5 oclock shadow?   Do lots of women have that too?  It is not all that hard to tell someone who is a man but dressing and presenting as a woman in some cases.  And yes, I have seen woman who are more masculine looking but there is little mistaking they have been a woman for life and are women.  Many trangenders transition beautifully, and if they get to know you well enough and tell you they are transgender, you might be blown away.  Many transgenders carry off the transformation so well, they are accepted as female and unquestionably are very female in all manner including appearance, voice and demeaner.  Others, not so much, and while transitioning, it is pretty obvious, so how would a female feel when they come out of the little compartment and discover a man dressed as a woman sharing their bathroom.............everyone is different.   I would probably wash my hands and leave promptly, but others might react more or ignore the person totally and leave as soon as possible.  I don't see anyone hanging around to adjust their underwear or clothing!  None of us are experts and as aptly pointed out by our fine city council member Daniels, neither is anyone on the human rights council, but they are big into the dialogue Max used about phoebic behavior or attitudes.  I am somewhat curious if that is where they "phoebic" came from (actually doubtful this group of wanna be shrinks would get it right, and I see many people being accused of things they never said or did in spite of your saying if "someone is accused they are" crapola.  People have been convicted of murder who were later found to be innocent of the crime).  If you don't accept any group or just about anything going on, the human rights council is more than happy to solve the problem by telling you that you are phoebic when in reality, you may just plain not like the person or the horse they rode in on.  And, so far at least, we still have feedom of association as no one has created the living hell of forcing you to chum around with someone you abhor.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 3, 2012 at 7:07am

Jay, at a stage in their transformation process, they may be presenting as women, but they are clearly men.  They may make a good transition as many men do, but if you are someone who looks very masculine to start with, the process may never change the manly appearance.  As I said, I sat next to a couple of transgenders at one of the committee meetings.  They were very nice, but 1 at least (who sat right next to me) was clearly a man and was not womanly in that he had dirty long fingernails and unshaven legs with a skirt on, and the clothes were not neat but crumpled looking like they had not been pressed or ????.   Because of his appearance, he would have been clearly recognized as a man even in the ladies room with other woman.  Personally, I wouldn't have said anything, but I would have finished what I was doing and cleared out of the lady's room.  I don't know how other woman would have reacted.  Most people are polite to everyone, but the shock of realizing a man was using the ladies room dressed as a woman and at least looking somewhat like a woman might have been disconcerting.  And like you, I don't mind Max coming here, but I do mind the Max has decided to make this conversation about phobia and calling gays sexual predators when nothing could be further from the truth.  Personally, I take great offence that I was attacked for something I did not do and would not do.   If Max is going to come here, then Max should enter into the conversation in a productive way, and not come in with accusations of things that are not being done!  And Jay, I don't care what you talk about.  I already said I am through with it.  I will continue to post articles, but if you swing these blogs around to another subject, I am just going to try to get myself off the feed for them and go about my business.  I am pretty sick of the Ron Paul issue except perhaps his legislation and some of his comments about things.  I don't get pushing him as  a presidential candidate (we already have chosen Mitt Romney or the majority of people did).

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 2, 2012 at 9:11pm

Nothing confusing at all, but I am hard pressed to understand why Max comes here
since Max thinks we say bad things about gays and transgenders or perhaps since the comment in parens below is a Max comment, maybe Max wants to effect limits on our freedom of speech?  Or maybe tell us what is acceptable for us to say?  Certainly would appear that way since Max can say whatever Max wants but the statement made by Max says  the following:

"The amount of Phobia and Bigotry in this blog post comment section is too damn high!"

This is a private web site that Max signed onto, so I guess Max is here to monitor our comments and report back to someone?

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