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Ordinance 2012-296 ACTION NEEDED
By now you heard of Ordinance 2012-296. The previous communications have detailed the ordinance and its specific implication. To site the Ordinance Preamble, “Whereas, the City of Jacksonville seeks to build a reputation as a welcoming community for bright and talented members of a workforce…..”; this is a suggested ordinance giving the Human Rights Council the powers to enforce the ordinance against businesses “should it be proven that they discriminate” on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identification. The original ordinance also eliminated references to the United States Constitution and laws of the State and failed to define sexual orientation and gender identification. Is this a new special class of people? It suggests that Jacksonville is an environment that is hostile to the gay/lesbian/transgender people. This suggestion has been disproven by recent two national level survey’s that document that we rank number 3 and 4 for being a friendly city and a great place to live.
This bill is in front of our city council for vote. It has met some resistance from conservatives, Tea Party, religious organizations and other First Amendment Rights organizations. The opposition stands just as firm in their beliefs that this ordinance is needed so that they are treated fairly. While there are some personal level stories as to their treatment none relate to workplace/community or housing discrimination. We know that you cannot legislate the personal behaviors of some individuals who make a choice to be hateful to another.
There is now an attempt to amend the proposed ordinance by reinstating verbiage to the US Constitution and eliminating “gender identification” and perhaps “sexual expression.” This however will not solve the issues that this ordinance in any form will create.
I ask that you email the city council members listed below and feel free to utilize any of the information presented below.
Ask yourself and your council member:
Are you willing to commit to the premise that Jacksonville is hostile to the gay/lesbian community?
Are you willing to believe that only the gay, lesbian world is creative as your message so clearly stated in the council meeting last week?
Are you willing to commit that this is the most important issue to attract business to Jacksonville?
Are you willing to lay the legal and financial burdens of this legislation at the feet of thousands of the small business owners in our city?
Are you willing to impose the so called special needs of these citizens while ignoring and removing the rights of so many others?
Are you willing to take the responsibility for the thousands of other employees who while utilizing their freedom of speech about their beliefs both personal and religious may be sued or their employer sued by someone who finds an innocent comment “offensive to them”?
Are you willing to accept the ultimate personal responsibility that comes with your support of this ordinance when it is now perfectly clear that the origin of this ordinance came FROM AN EXTERNAL SOURCE, with monies behind it being QUESTIONABLE?
Are you willing to tell the pubic the truth that this is being pushed at the NATIONAL LEVEL by those who have a much larger and destructive AGENDA?
Are you willing to be honest and know that this group of OUR CITIZENS are being used to push a much larger attack on EVERYONE’S freedoms? Specifically of SPEECH AND RELIGION?
This bill is not needed. There is no systemic discrimination.
In addition to the above questions the following information is provided for understanding.
The Ordinance:
1) Creates New and Special Rights for Homosexuals: The ordinance creates new and special rights for homosexuals by creating a new protected class and a special legal classification based upon “sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression”.
2) Weakens Florida’s Marriage Amendment as the Union of One Man and One Woman: The ordinance like others around the country have been used to undermine and overturn state marriage laws and state constitutional amendments defining marriage as the union of one man and one woman. Gay rights activists around the country have used the collective scheme of nondiscrimination laws like this one to create a new protected class and legalize homosexual marriages in states like Vermont, Iowa, New Hampshire and Washington, DC.
3) Removes All References to the U.S. Constitution: The ordinance (unbelievably) removes all references to the “United States Constitution” in the city code and deletes all language referring to “civil rights found under the US Constitution”. The ordinance language thereby removes the rights, protections and limitations given to citizens by the highest law of the land.
4) Creates Legal Defenses for Pedophiles: The ordinances gender identity and gender expression language would allow men to be able to use women’s bathrooms (and vice versa) in “public accommodations” based upon their subjective sense of whether they are a male or female allowing for pedophiles to have a defense for using girl’s bathrooms. This shocking provision is being forced onto cities all around the country. The security and privacy of locker rooms, dressing rooms, bathrooms and other separate facilities are all compromised.
5) Creates More Lawsuits and Regulations for Businesses: The ordinance forces individual citizens, businesses and landlords in Jacksonville to be liable to be sued for money damages if they choose to not hire homosexual, transgendered, bi-sexual or gender confused persons in their small businesses, or choose not to accept similar persons as tenants in their private homes or apartments.
6) Violates Religious Freedoms- The ordinance forces Christians and other people of faith to violate their rights of conscience and good faith religious beliefs in business and employment situations and with housing decisions for private property owners.
I implore you to send a message to your city council NOW! Tell them that you oppose this ordinance in any form. Additionally, if you can get to City Hall this Tuesday for the next meeting PLEASE ATTEND.
Our physical presence makes a HUGE difference.
Send this to your list of small business owners so that they too can respond. Send it to your friends and ask them to email and support their city.
While it appears to be most important to send the message to Lori Boyer, Jim Love, Greg Anderson. Robin Lumb, Bill Bishop, Ray Holt and Dr. Johnny Gaffney a message to each member is highly effective.
District 2: William Bishop WBishop@coj.net
District 11: Ray Holt Holt@coj.net
At Large (Group 4) Greg Anderson GAnderson@coj.net
At Large (Group 5) Robin Lumb RLumb@coj.net
District 3: Richard Clark RClark@coj.net
District 5: Lori N. Boyer LBoyer@coj.net
District 7: Dr. Johnny Gaffney - Gaffney@coj.net
District 8: E. Denise Lee EDLee@coj.net
District 9: Warren Jones WAJones@coj.net
District 10: Reginald Brown RBrown@coj.net
District 14: Jim Love JimLove@coj.net
At Large (Group 2) John R. Crescimbeni JRC@coj.net
At Large (Group 3) Stephen C. Joost Joost@coj.net
District 1: Clay Yarborough Clay@coj.net
District 4: Don Redman Redman@coj.net
At-Large (Group 1): Kimberly Daniels KimDaniels@coj.net
District 6: Matt Schellenberg MattS@coj.net
District 12: Doyle Carter doylec@coj.net
District 13: Bill Gulliford Gulliford@coj.net
In addition to your emails you can do more, there is a City Council meeting scheduled at City Hall tomorrow June 26th at 5PM. It is critical that as many people as possible show up as a public display of support AGAINST this bill. Know that the opposition will be there in mass.
Thank you
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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 2, 2012 at 9:02pm
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Jay, Max, is a transgender who comes on here to check on us and find out what we
are saying or try to sway us to her viewpoint. The problem is her viewpoint at
this point is to make up things that she has perceived were meant by statements
that do not mean at all what she says they do. I will also forewarn you that she
has already accused me of saying something I didn't say. She has issues with
what Leanne said in her post about pedophiles. I am discussing an issue that was
brought up earlier in this post by another person that a couple of us made
comments about. None of us was talking about gays or folks like Max. Leanne has
said pedophiles could use the ladies rooms and then, claim they are really
transgenders if caught there. I agree with Leanne. I think that could happen,
and that situation would give a bad name to gays (but that would have nothing to
do with any of us..........it is just a possibility of something that could
happen and we are discussing it and were earlier (hence Max decided we called
her a pedophile which of course we did not), and most people who would do what
pedophiles do I think are capable to stooping that low).
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You know very well that is not at all what I meant or what Leanne meant or you are choosing not to get it, and either way the conversation is done. They can use it to get entry to areas where they can commit crimes. No the can't use it as a defence and you are spewing gobbildy goop that is the "rhetoric" being used to twist around the truth of the matter. The other thing you have wrong is if you are presenting as a woman and go into the ladies room in your view, you aren't doing anything wrong, but all those unsuspecting ladies that are in the ladies room may not see it exactly as you do and may very well feel they have lost their privacy. You are only presenting as a woman; you aren't one in the biblical sense (and please don't read anything that isn't there into that). Talking to you is a waste of time. I am not going to agree with you, and you want to see thigns that aren't there, and there is nothing anyone can do about that. That said, I would be very careful what you say to or about me; I treat everyone pretty much the same and am truly a live and let live person, but if someone lies about me or puts words in my mouth that were never there, you could have an enemy and someone who doesn't like you, but not because you are presenting as a woman. I detest anyone who lies or slanders.
If Someone goes into a Womens bathroom presenting as female, they've done nothing wrong.
If someone goes into a womens bathroom, no matter how they are presenting, and molests a child. They are a pedophile and will be prosecuted. You can't use Gender Identity to defend against assault, molestation, or rape.
The fact that you people keep saying that 296 will allow pedophiles to defend their actions is a fear ploy, and is a lie
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Comment by Maxine Jessica Roberts on July 2, 2012 at 7:24pm
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Patricia, It is about me, and others like me.
Pedophiles can't use that defense, and please show me where they have?
Also please stop using "Gay" to identify a trans* person. Trans* is not gay and gay is not trans* they are two different groups.
This passing will not give anyone the ability to prey on anyone. Because molesting people will still be illegal. There is no defense against molesting someone.
Saying "I did it because of my gender identity" is not an excuse and it has never been used.
But if you accost me because I use a female restroom, right now I'm the one who'll got to jail because I had an M on my license, even though I have a female presentation. I look female. and if I went into a male restroom I have a chance of getting molested or assaulted by men.
Adding gender identity to the non-discrimination act would simply protect me from people saying I'm not welcome in a place I belong based off my identity and expression.
I have three different letters from three different doctors saying I'm female, the average pedophile, even if he tries to use gender identity as an excuse for going into a women's restroom, wont have any of that. They couldn't use that defense at that point. And even if they did, it wouldn't protect them from the molestation charges if they hurt someone.
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That statement has nothing at all to do with gay people Max. It is about pedophiles using this discrimination law to gain access to situations where they can do whatever it is they do. You need to get a life Max. Not everything is about you! Read it again, but this time, lose the "it's about me attitude..........it isn't about you! It is about pedophiles who pray on other people having more access to do so by using this discrimination law should it pass..........you have reason to mad, but not at us. If pedopholes start doing that, it will give gays a bad name as the person will be pretending to be gay to get the access they need to prey on people (do you get it now?????)!
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The truth is Pat,
If Someone goes into a Womens bathroom presenting as female, they've done nothing wrong.
If someone goes into a womens bathroom, no matter how they are presenting, and molests a child. They are a pedophile and will be prosecuted. You can't use Gender Identity to defend against assault, molestation, or rape.
The fact that you people keep saying that 296 will allow pedophiles to defend their actions is a fear ploy, and is a lie. A Pedophile will molest a child they find vulnerable no matter what restroom they are in. OR where they are.
Me, presenting, and appearing female, and feeling safe using a female restroom, does not allow a pedophile to molest a child.
And the continuous yelling and screaming that it would makes it sound like you think I'm a Pedophile. Which is an insult to me. And that is why I yell and scream back at you over it.
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Pat, "4) Creates Legal Defenses for Pedophiles: The ordinances gender identity and gender expression language would allow men to be able to use women’s bathrooms (and vice versa) in “public accommodations” based upon their subjective sense of whether they are a male or female allowing for pedophiles to have a defense for using girl’s bathrooms. This shocking provision is being forced onto cities all around the country. The security and privacy of locker rooms, dressing rooms, bathrooms and other separate facilities are all compromised. " Was in the freaking post by Leanna.
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And why oh why must you talk sex non stop. I don't think anyone here was discussing it?
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Max, I wish you would quit bringing up the pedaphile thing that no one else has mentioned. You are the one who is fixated on it, not us! Your problem, so do not try pinning it on any of us period, and that is the last I will say about this issue period. You accused me of saying that, and after carefully going through all the blogs, it was found that no one said it accept for your accusation which is groundless.
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I really wish you guys would stop lying about the Pedophiles thing.
Trans* people have a lower chance of molesting your children in a bathroom then a priest would. The hormones most Trans* Women are on prevents them from even being able to be sexually active. as it inhibits Testosterone which is necessary in both men or women to have a sex drive.
This doesn't protect perverts, dressing indecently, and molesting people will still be illegal.
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PS. I also appreciate what you post, but not so much where sometimes. Does that make sense? We had just had all sorts of really good info on another blog, and didn't feel you should continue you it on another blog where people were now commenting on an issue that is quite important to our community.............
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