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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 19, 2012 at 2:14pm

And how many other countries are holding a gun to the back of our heads and we pay and continue to interfer?  And what will the next president do?  Will he continue this UN membership or will he show them the door (wishful thinking I know).

 

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 19, 2012 at 2:12pm

I agree.  At the time I saw it, I wondered what the heck we were doing meddling in the Egyptian government and still wonder why we have been paying the bills for the army there.  I sort of understood when the peace between them and Israel was very strong..........I don't understand it now except it is extortion at this point as was them holding us up to get those people back.  I agree that there is a massive network that is sprawled all over the place Roma.  I see many hopeful things though locally and in our state.  People are waking up to what is going on and are fighting back.............

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 19, 2012 at 12:32pm

And your point was them paying the blood money?  You said:

"I did not know there was such a thing as the IRI and NDI…did you?"

I was only saying those were 2 of the groups mentioned a while back as they were violating some new laws, and they were the folks that got arrested including the son of some big Washington MuckyMuck.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 19, 2012 at 11:49am

Roma, these were organizations that were mentioned a while back, and the Egyptians had arrested some of the folks who belonged to those organizations (because they were talking of imposing strick Sharia and democracy and Sharia are not compatible).   They also were eliminating any courses at the colleges that discussed democratic ideas etc.  They must have had to buy them back so to speak and one of the young people was the son of some big wig in Washington (can't remember who right now).  This bail thing is ludicrous as they are also trying to hold us up for the money to sustain their military as we had been subsidizing that as you recall, there was something to do with they couldn't assure safety for Israel if we didn't give them that money.  As I said, it has been a while now, but maybe this will jerk you memory on it?  

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 18, 2012 at 8:56am

Great info Holly and thank you for sharing.  Also great info from Roma as usual.  I should have time this morning to blog some, but I have been on this computer since I got up and it is now almost 10 AM and must get some things done, so I will beg off until later today ladies.  Holly, I will be very interested in what happens in relation to what you friend is doing.  I think the constitution still has bearing, but as a country this Marxist in our white house certainly hasn't paid much mind to the law and so far at least he is getting away with being the biggest law breaker in the country............who would have thought we would have such a man get elected to the most important office in our country................nothing but a mentally ill law breaker!

Comment by Holly Winsman on April 18, 2012 at 7:34am

Roma and Tom,

I do have a friend that has more history of the corruption, the companies both UN and UN fronts, who their ties are which of course are mostly foreign and not domestic as one would figure.  He's been doing psyops for 30 years.  We would need about 30 people to begin with, obviously he still believes that there is the "proper" way to do these things and so far they have worked.  Since our constitution is being shreded everyday, I am getting leary about it's validity anymore.  I will contact him, not today, I am heading out of town soon, and see if we get a group together what our first step would be.  He's in a case right now and they are blackballing him at every corner and they are not doing what they should constitutionally, that scares me.  I know that there is a law that states if there is corruption or you feel there is corruption, the whole case should be thrown out or all new players brought in but I don't think they are going to give him that option either.  If he loses, which would be a first, then he will do life - all for exposing corruption.  So, you really need to decide you will put 100% into this type of chasing and charging before you begin.  Yes, 1913 was our demise, although they had tried for six years prior to get the FR going, so I guess 1907 was the beginning of our demise. Now we are dealing with a dominoe effect for more than 100 years, that's a whole lot of corruption!!!!!!!  Have a good day.

Comment by Holly Winsman on April 17, 2012 at 9:44pm

Patricia,

I got in touch with a friend that is having legal battles with Tally and asked him about FOIA and Sunshine.  He said that neither were applicable and you have to use a Florida State Statute - Public Records Chapter 119.07 to get records released.  NO,  I have not even looked it up. LOL  This is the kind of stuff I abhor!!!!!!!

Comment by Holly Winsman on April 17, 2012 at 9:40pm

Roma and Tom and Patricia,

I agree with Patricia, getting 30 people together at the state level and exposing which UN front groups, ie. Nestle, AMEC, CEMEX, Siemens, etc. would be much easier to do and we could collapse Tally in about 30 days if we were ornganized. In 60 days we would have the 10th Amendment and be completely sovereign.  Then after we secure our own safety, then start making a difference on a high level.  We do not have the people in place in DC that will do anything. Rubio is too worried about immigration right now, he signed the NDAA, Nelson is just a military oath BREAKER gone socialist and Mica is a true pusher of Agenda 21. My Federal Rep is better than Alan GRayson but he still signed the NDAA.  Florida will not get any help from our Federal legislatures, what they are doing is actually hurting us.  Roma and Tom please explain to me how you plan to get our Federal legislatures to move and do the things that other states are doing to help their people. We need all the bills that have been passed to make gold and silver a valid currency when they do the flip flop which is planned for June 1st.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 17, 2012 at 2:17pm

Roma, I am not annoyed with you.  I do not intend to get into the federal reserve with you either, but I don't want all conversations to come back to something which I can't do one single thing about.  Something can be done here in Florida about cities joining Iclei however as we are seeing in cities where people have become educated and raised holy cain.  I don't want to bite off something which is totally undoable and lament about it over and over.  I far prefer to take on something which can be impacted.  It is sort of like you wanting to be responsible for getting out the vote coast to coast while I know I can do my precinct and make a difference (a REAL DIFFERENCE and something that is measureable).  I understand that the macro is all about the federal reserve, and I don't understand mostly why you want to stay at the macro when you can effect change on the micro............you just have to have a whole bunch of people all on the same page and willing to do the micro.   When you talk get rid of the federal reserve, it makes people totally give up any kind of hope at all and I want folks to really try and make a difference locally, because others are working on it and winning.  You are talking international and I am talking local and my state (as in all politics is local and if enough people tackle local, pretty soon you have changed national).

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on April 17, 2012 at 10:24am

Look at these Holly.  The first 2 are places where folks have become educated and are fighting back.  The 3rd link is a beginners guide sort of for Agenda 21:

http://www.varight.com/news/more-heroes-for-our-nation-today-today-...

http://www.varight.com/news/martin-county-fl-republican-executive-c...

http://www.freedomadvocates.org/articles/illegitimate_government/ic...

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