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Permalink Reply by Jack on March 23, 2012 at 12:25am

Ken, even in thinking theoretically or hypothetically I really do not think that we can take that chance this time. In any other election I would probably agree with you but not this time. The risk this time is just to great. Even if we get the worst Romney possible I still think that it is better than getting the best Obama possible because I do believe that Obama is a radical muslim revolutionary that is indeed out to destroy this country and everything that it stands for and is founded on.

As for our millitary, I am sure that there are those in the millitary with extremist views that would fire on us and with the kind of weapons that we currently have any civilian rebellion that might arise could and would quickly be defeated. Any revolution that is going to be affective in this day and age is going to have to come from within the internal political process and that is exactly what I believe is happening right now. Obama is really trying to foundamentally change this country, the question is, are we going to be able to do anything about it?

Well Jack, in theory I have to agree with you.

See again Ken, what logical conversation and respectable debating can accomplish?

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Permalink Reply by Jack on March 23, 2012 at 11:26am

Is that the best you got John? You know when I first recognized you on here I was just trying to get in touch with an old friend. Clearly I was mistaken, we obviously havent been friends since the night that you killed that poor unarmed drunk guy because you were to big of a coward to stand up to him.

Prison really messed you up in the head. You are not the same person you once were, which really isnt saying much to begin with. You have always been pretty worthless, not sure if thats from being dropped on your head as an infant or from being beat over the head with a guitar by your worthless father. I never met the man, but obviously the apple didn't fall far from the tree did it?

You have got some serious problems. Didn't they give you therapy in prison, hate to be the one to tell you but it didn't work.

Btw, your ex needs her child support. She said it is hard to raise your kids on a waitresses salary from pizza hut.................

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Permalink Reply by Jack on March 23, 2012 at 5:21pm

I ended it because our friendship obviously meant more to me than it ever did to you John. You decided to attack me personally over political differences that shouldn't even matter between friends. As far as my friendship with you goes I couldn't give a rats a$$ about any of this political bullshit. I tried to change the topic of conversation with you several times but you still continued to belittle and berate me. What would you expect? I kept telling you that we were suppose to be friends and what did you say? That I didn't need to keep reminding you of that.

John, how many people other than your mother and your ex wrote you while you were incarcerated? Besides me that is? Couldn't get you to put me on your visitor list so I could come see you even after asking you numerous times. When you got out, did you contact me or even let me know? NO, I had to come find you. Then I recognized you once again on here totally by accident and try to renew a friendship that I use to value very highly and all you can do is attack me personally and call me stupid and immature because I do not totally agree with you politically. And now your actually trying to tell me how my idea of friendship is conditional, REALLY?

 

Dude you are so Fcked up in the head. Do you not realize that you were the closest thing I had to a father growing up? You took me hunting for the first time, took me to see Star Wars etc......introduced me to James Bond movies, got me drunk the first time.............dude, you were once a huge part of my life. I would have died or killed for you because, to me, you were my brother, the only brother I ever had and now your going to sit here and try to tell me how my friendship is conditional. You really are screwed up in the head and seriously need to think about getting some help. I care about you, reguardless of your political views. I don't care if you have Ron Pauls picture on the ceiling above your bed. Non of that crap matters to me. You were once my brother but you have made it rather obvious that it mattered to me a lot more than it ever did to you. So you know what you can do with all of your conditional friendship bullshit don't you?

Hell, I still have the weight set and all the magazines that you gave me 30yrs ago, because they actually mean something to me.............but go ahead and take your self righteous bullshit and shove it up your a$$, Im sure that your fellow inmates wore it out so it should be an easy fit...............

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Permalink Reply by Ken Stump on March 23, 2012 at 9:25pm

You two really need to take this private.  It isn't making either one of you look very good to outsiders.  I can empathize with you Jack, since I also have an adopted family the means far more to me than any blood relatives, not counting my own children and a half sister that's younger than my son.  Still, this isn't the place to air this.  

John, I don't know you so I can't really say much other than, if you were once that close to each other, shouldn't you at least work this out in private?  And if you don't want to try to work it out, at least keep it off of the public rest room walls so to speak.  Having a brother, and a mother, that went behind my back and stole from me while I was in Vietnam, I know he and I will never repair a relationship, so I'm not a stranger to relationships going bad. 

The elections are rigged, so politics definitely are not worth this kind of animosity or excuse to take pot shots.  Although it looks like it goes much deeper than politics.

Jack Wright said:

I ended it because our friendship obviously meant more to me than it ever did to you John. You decided to attack me personally over political differences that shouldn't even matter between friends. As far as my friendship with you goes I couldn't give a rats a$$ about any of this political bullshit. I tried to change the topic of conversation with you several times but you still continued to belittle and berate me. What would you expect? I kept telling you that we were suppose to be friends and what did you say? That I didn't need to keep reminding you of that.

John, how many people other than your mother and your ex wrote you while you were incarcerated? Besides me that is? Couldn't get you to put me on your visitor list so I could come see you even after asking you numerous times. When you got out, did you contact me or even let me know? NO, I had to come find you. Then I recognized you once again on here totally by accident and try to renew a friendship that I use to value very highly and all you can do is attack me personally and call me stupid and immature because I do not totally agree with you politically. And now your actually trying to tell me how my idea of friendship is conditional, REALLY?

 

Dude you are so Fcked up in the head. Do you not realize that you were the closest thing I had to a father growing up? You took me hunting for the first time, took me to see Star Wars etc......introduced me to James Bond movies, got me drunk the first time.............dude, you were once a huge part of my life. I would have died or killed for you because, to me, you were my brother, the only brother I ever had and now your going to sit here and try to tell me how my friendship is conditional. You really are screwed up in the head and seriously need to think about getting some help. I care about you, reguardless of your political views. I don't care if you have Ron Pauls picture on the ceiling above your bed. Non of that crap matters to me. You were once my brother but you have made it rather obvious that it mattered to me a lot more than it ever did to you. So you know what you can do with all of your conditional friendship bullshit don't you?

Hell, I still have the weight set and all the magazines that you gave me 30yrs ago, because they actually mean something to me.............but go ahead and take your self righteous bullshit and shove it up your a$$, Im sure that your fellow inmates wore it out so it should be an easy fit...............

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Permalink Reply by Jack on March 23, 2012 at 10:28pm

Ken, it goes a lot deeper than politics. I have tried to end this privately with him several times. I have even blocked him from messaging and emailing me but for some reason he finds it necessary to keep trying to belittle me and call me names. I would prefer to stop any and all conversation with him since it is way beyond pointless to continue. However for some reason he seems determined to continue it publically and blow it all out of proportion.

You and I can actually carry on a logical conversation and agree to disagree on our differences without the need to attack each other in a personal manner and call each other names. I actually had the best of intentions in the beginning but you know what they say about good intentions. I have been trying to get in touch with him for the last several years because he was like a brother to me while I was growing up, it was only by complete accident that I recognized his picture on here and now I truely wish I hadn't.

I owe everyone an apology for airing personal history and dirty laundry on here publically but Im not going to sit back and continue to be insulted by anyone on here just because I disagree with them politically. No matter who it might be.

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Permalink Reply by Ken Stump on March 23, 2012 at 10:46pm

I don't have a good answer for you.  I wish I did.  My own personal history allows me to understand how you "feel".  But since I've never been able to solve my own situation, I can't impart any wisdom.  But then again, I have no desire to solve my own problem.  I've been "bit" too often.  There is no trust, so there will be no contact or attempt to reconcile.  So all I can really offer is it takes two to fight or argue.  And I know that I would personally be unable to ignore the situation.  And yet refusing to rise to the bait may just be what ends it.  Sorry I can't offer anything better.

Jack Wright said:

Ken, it goes a lot deeper than politics. I have tried to end this privately with him several times. I have even blocked him from messaging and emailing me but for some reason he finds it necessary to keep trying to belittle me and call me names. I would prefer to stop any and all conversation with him since it is way beyond pointless to continue. However for some reason he seems determined to continue it publically and blow it all out of proportion.

You and I can actually carry on a logical conversation and agree to disagree on our differences without the need to attack each other in a personal manner and call each other names. I actually had the best of intentions in the beginning but you know what they say about good intentions. I have been trying to get in touch with him for the last several years because he was like a brother to me while I was growing up, it was only by complete accident that I recognized his picture on here and now I truely wish I hadn't.

I owe everyone an apology for airing personal history and dirty laundry on here publically but Im not going to sit back and continue to be insulted by anyone on here just because I disagree with them politically. No matter who it might be.

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Permalink Reply by Roma and Tom Cox on March 24, 2012 at 7:01am

Honestly, I have seen both of you express kindness at times, and at other times not so kind...especially toward each other.  One thing I know about both of you though is that you both really care about each other. People we do not care about don't hurt us.  Underneath all the anger you are expressing is lots of pain.  Since you obviously care so much about each other), it might be wise to talk on the phone, and talk this out in private (as ken has suggested). ... come form the hart instead of the anger.

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Permalink Reply by Yvonne Godshall on March 24, 2012 at 1:11pm

 WOW! Keep my politicos to myself! Seems safer!

 Do wish to share some "interesting" reading however. Mychal Massie did a piece on "WHEN will Obama crack in PUBLIC"  Very interesting....you may want to read this.

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Permalink Reply by Ken Stump on March 24, 2012 at 2:03pm

The link to the story Yvonne mentioned is http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/288657/  

The only thing I can say about the article is, what can one expect from the offspring of White Trash and an unknown father?  He wasn't exactly picked from the deep end of the gene pool you know.

Yvonne Godshall said:

 WOW! Keep my politicos to myself! Seems safer!

 Do wish to share some "interesting" reading however. Mychal Massie did a piece on "WHEN will Obama crack in PUBLIC"  Very interesting....you may want to read this.

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Permalink Reply by Ken Stump on March 28, 2012 at 3:06pm

Remember that old commercial "We get our money the old fashioned way.  We work for it."?  Wouldn't it be nice if we could have an election where the candidate didn't just buy the nomination.....like Romnie is?  Wouldn't it be nice if the Republican Party actually put up Conservative candidates again?  The entire country will soon be "swimming with the fishes."

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Permalink Reply by Roma and Tom Cox on March 30, 2012 at 6:02am

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Permalink Reply by Rhonda Taylor on March 30, 2012 at 7:22am

I will not vote for Obama either directly nor indirectly by not voting. I will vote for whomever the nominee is against him - PERIOD. Any of the Republicans -- Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingritch or Mitt Romney would be 1000 times better than 4 more years of Obama, especially 4 more "unanswerable" years (remember what he was caught whispering to the Russian representative regarding missile defense)! He will cripple this country even more than he has thus far if we are not united in his defeat.

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