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The negative information out there on Herman Cain seems to be increasing at an exponential rate. I am doing research on Herman Cain and expect to be completed with it with in the next week or two.
Many of the sites that disparage Mr. Cain have strong libertarian ties, there is nothing wrong with that, but it does show a questionable pattern. Mr. Messamore is a strong supporter of libertarian candidates and states such on his blog-radio show.
I must disclose, though, that I have been a Cain listener for almost 3 years now.
1. Many prominent conservatives supported the INITIAL TARP. I believe some months ago the government recovered all of it.
2. How was supporting Mitt Romney NOT conservative? Wouldn't Mitt have been a much better choice than John McCain, a genuine RINO? I had to hold my nose to vote for him, even with Sara Palin on the ticket.
3. Sure Herman opposes an audit. He wants to eradicate it. Look into his 9-9-9 plan.
The Ron Paul people strike me as pseudo-conservative lefties, as radical as the Occupy Wall Street crowd. Everything they say must be taken with a lot of salt because they will twist anything. He's not a party, He's a cult.
Open Secrets and Numbers USA are not Libertarian websites...nor are his own words in the video.
1. A former chairman of Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City and senior adviser to the 1996 presidential campaign of Republicans Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, Cain has regularly opened his wallet for political allies, and he even operates his own political action committee, called the Hermanator PAC.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/05/herman-cain-touts-outside-s...
Herman PAC expenditures mostly administrative:
2. In 2008 Herman Cain praised TARP and Chided Free Market
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/05/fl...
http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc129.htm
http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm
http://www.newworldradical.com/2011/05/who-is-herman-cain.html
3. Cain Supported big government candidate Mitt Romney
http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20080410165959/www.northstarwrit...
4. Numbers USA gives Herman Cain a D+ for illegal immigration see results here
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/april-25-2011/we-a...
Go to 7:16 and tell me what he says about the FED.....
Karen, Roma & Tom; The only thing I follow 100% is my nose.
Of the three issues you've presented I have little to no problem with Herman Cain's thoughtful positions. They're not deal breakers. Cain takes a realistic view on many issues and low-life political operatives will use this as a wedge to split off one-issue voters. -And make no mention of the "logs in the eye" of their candidates.
While I define myself as a Libertarian; I have a hell of a lot of problems with Ron Paul (another topic) and his Democrat-like political tactics of his lefty followers.
Cain is the most open & vocal of all the candidates. To present snipits & soundbites in an effort portray Herman as a stealth candidate slipping in sheep's clothing under the radar of the Tea Party, just doesn't hold water. Herman Cain's fundamentals are sound. We'll always differ on the nuances of every issue. And Realists are never going to be popular for many... (take the abortion issue for example)
Even after watching & reading all your "evidence" I'm still not convinced he is not our best choice -so far. But keep presenting evidence, I'm open to change.
Roma & Tom; Was your list supposed to be against Cain? You left out the Huffington Post. -anti corporate globalist complaining about how somebody spends his own money is a scandal?
Reading it through, I frankly can't tell for sure which side you're taking.
So, Who are you backing?
Here is how the tarp money was paid back...not!
Congress recently gave the Federal Reserve power to do automatic bailouts without Congressional oversight .. Guess who bailed out Greece. That's right...you!
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-05-03/news/30032465_1_bail...
It is not my place to tell you who to vote for...you decide based on the facts, and if the facts I have presented are a plus for Cain or a minus for Cain, that is up to you to decide.
I have learned, the hard way, that people will say one thing to get elected only to do just the opposite once elected. Congress is full of them. so I now look beyond the surface (their campaign speeches and websites) on each and every candidate before voting. In doing so, I have found there are no perfect candidates...just human beings. But some are closer to the Constitution than others, and that is what I look for in a candidate.
I want a limited government as is spelled out in the Constitution so the people can be left alone to solve the economic problems we now face . Others look to the government and the Federal Reserve to provide solutions for the economy.
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P.S. I do not think Debbie G was implying libertarians are liers, only that they ignore the negative sides of their own candidate...biased if you will. After all libertarians are allies wanting smaller government, and a return to the Constitution as do Conservatives. (See Mission Statement on Main Page)
Well guess what...Ron Paul is not perfect either:
Paul
voting record: On The Issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Open Secrets (contributors).
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N0...
Interesting, and informative Article at this link:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/05/ron-paul-third-presidential...
Numbers USA recently lowered Ron Paul's immigration ratings due to his recent book to an F
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/ron-paul.html
Bachmann is not perfect either, but she has remained so loyal to the Conservative movement, and taken much heat for it from the RINO Republicans, news media, and GOP for doing so. I find it odd that Conservatives have not remained loyal to her.
Michele Bachmann
1. Open Secrets: http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/index.php?searchButt=Search+Open...
voting record:
2. I was well aware of most of this, but surprised about some of her votes:
http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/B001256
3.. Numbers U.S.A. grade for Bachmann on Illegal Immigration is a B-
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/2012-presidential-hopefuls...
If you're not already aware. This is what's going on in DC while dangerous criminals are allowed back out on the streets. It's horrifying that this is happening to our citizens and veterans for protesting the hijacking of our election process. This is still happening! They are STILL being tortured and treated like full on terrorists.
You may not be aware of the typical things they're forced to go through...…
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P.S. I do not think Debbie G was implying libertarians are liers, only that they ignore the negative sides of their own candidate...biased if you will. After all libertarians are allies wanting smaller government, and a return to the Constitution as do Conservatives. (See Mission Statement on Main Page)
Well guess what...Ron Paul is not perfect either:
Paul
voting record: On The Issues
http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Open Secrets (contributors).
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N0...
Interesting, and informative Article at this link:
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/05/ron-paul-third-presidential...
Numbers USA recently lowered Ron Paul's immigration ratings due to his recent book to an F
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/ron-paul.htmlBachmann is not perfect, but she has remained very loyal to the Conservative movement, and as has taken a lot of heat from the RINO republicans and the GOP for doing so. I find it odd that we have not remained loyal to her.
Michele Bachmann
1. Open Secrets: http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/index.php?searchButt=Search+Open...
voting record:
2. I was well aware of most of this, but surprised about some of her votes:
http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/B001256
3.. Numbers U.S.A. grade for Bachmann on Illegal Immigration is a B-
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/2012-presidential-hopefuls...