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Comment by Larry Landin on July 29, 2011 at 10:50pm

Patricia, I am well aware of the "whys" for our presence, having spent 4 overseas tours in my 23+ years of commissioned military service. I also stated, I am a proponent of a strong defense...and I do mean STRONG. But the reasons for our forward deployment have changed to the degree that the "bad guy" the European installations was intended to deter no longer exists, and the European nations have fully recovered from WWII so there is no economic need for a strong U.S. presence.  I can also assure you we have unimaginable strike capabilities that do not require forward deployment unless we intend to put boots on the ground.  The NATO organization should not be a financial burden on the U.S. any longer. Do we really need a large presence in Japan?  As you discussed our meddling, you made my point. Additionally, no matter what we think or do, we are not well-liked in this world..so why are we there?  Fiscally, reductions legitimately need to be on the table.  It certainly won't take care of the deficit, but well-designed reductions that keep our servicemen/women on our soil should not be considered a sacred cow.  we already have so many sacred cows that it's actually a sacred herd.  Another of those in the herd is the U.N....it should go.  That would save a healthy bit of change.

 

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 29, 2011 at 8:47pm

Doyle, what a really cute story (but somehow it  probably wasn't "cute" to live through).  But agree as the whole thing does sound very Obama (and although he acts like he is still 3, he isn't)!

Comment by Doyle on July 29, 2011 at 6:40pm

I had my just- turned-three grandson for about an hour this morning wile his father, my son, ran an errand. Tired and overdue for a nap, he was in one of those moods.

When he said he was hungry, I fixed the sandwich he asked for. He said he didn't want a sandwich, he wanted apple instead.

I peeled and cut up an apple for him. He said he didn't want it. He wanted a glass of milk.

When I gave him his cup of milk, he said he didn't want it.

Well I gave him his class of juice, he said he didn't want it. He wanted ...

I put the sandwich, the apple, and both drinks in front of him and said, "That's all you're getting. "

The toddler stomped his foot, screwed his face into an ugly expression, crossed his arms over his chest and screamed, "NO WAY!"

My son came in to find his son with his nose in the corner.

Too bad we can't treat President Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi the same way.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 29, 2011 at 6:09pm

Larry, the reason we have done the military presence in these other countries is because these countries are doing and have done what Obama wants to do in our country. They are basically either social democracies or they are dirt poor because they have dictators or just plain lousy governments (like we do right now) and most of those bases are more for our own defense than theirs but having us there makes them safer and us safer as well. The bases put us within strike distance of the bad guys and also gives them heartburn, because we are there period. I know most people do not understand why or what for. I also understand people like Obama think we can take all that down and just pull in to our own country and because all these folks are just swell and have no really devious desire to hurt us, it will be ok for us to do the same thing Europe has done and turn our country into a socialist country where over half the people are feeding off the hard work of the "working people". It isn't what we have ever done and to stay safe requires we show strength. I am old, and I am really sick to death of the leaches, and maybe they deserve the kind of protection a military like Obama envisions, but many of the young people in this country deserve what the government is supposed to provide and that is a strong national defense (and darn little else). What we have is a government that is meddling in everything and making most things worse while they spend trillions, and they would like all that national defense money to blow too! We don't have new anything; we don't have the best for our fighting men and women; we don't have a defense system that we can be truly proud of anymore. What we have really are hard working honest and patriot men and women who would give their lives for us to remain free and for the likes of Obama and those who follow him to keep some symbol of freedom alive.  What we have are a group of people who wish to short change those men and women and our country at every juncture for the power and authority they think keeping a group of slaves allows them and make no mistake, many of the people in this country are no better than slaves who kow whatever line the government tells them to for the free lunch they think they are entitled to at someone else's expense!

Comment by robert c tipton on July 29, 2011 at 4:16pm

I must say over my 77 years I have been active in a number of America loving groups--EXCLUDE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY --for which I apologize --but never have I been more proud than I am to play my small part in the TEA PARTY-The only group of dedicated AMERICAN who came close was 40 years ago as an active member of the John Birch Society in central Florida--I wish I could personally thank those house members and Senators who we embraced and backed in 2010 who have stayed the course--NO COMPROMISE --we have had 50 years of that crap and it must and will stop now one way or the other.To those who have jumped ship and betrayed us for whatever flimsy washington doublespeak reason -We know who you are and you will pay for your betrayal.To the John McCains and Grahams GO AWAY--Leave this country you think is so lousy-You are not welcome and we dont need you--GOD BLESS the TEA PARTY --its goals--its dedicated patriots( see Billy--Carol Mc --Lynn H and all the rest)Do not stop what we are doing --increase the pressure-the visability-the exposure and pray for AMERICA.We will prevail in the end Right always ultimately prevail.

Comment by JL Gawlik on July 29, 2011 at 3:43pm

What is truly amazing IF you have been following Congress, since Jan 2011 the House has been hard at work passing budget after budget, bill after bill, plan after plan only to have Senator Harry Reid in the Senate table it. He talks compromise but he obstructs. What he blames the House of doing is doing 10 times worst. The House has passed budget after budget. The Press does NOT report this. The House has passed plan after plan, they do not report this. ONLY when it is almost ZERO hour, you have the President, Reid, Pelosi and the Progressive Democrats coming out and making accusations. WHY in the HELL didn't they come out when Pelosi & Reid REFUSED TO PASS a budget? There has NOT been a budget passed thru the HOUSE since April 2009, 3 years ago. WHY?

 

I am just amazed at reality and what the Progressive Democrats reality is, Isn't it interesting HOW Harry Reid is now NOT talking taxes? He has 23 Democrat seats up for grabs in 2012, the buzz is that he & Pelosi want NO Progressives talking about raising taxes, period. They are lying and deceiving while the GOP is openly debating and having a honest talk about it all. We need to CUT, CAP and BALANCE to get our country back to prosperity. The plan that i was talking about earlier is called the MACK PENNY PLAN it is going to be discussed on Hannity. I wish someone could come up with a invention WHEN SOMEONE LIES they implode or wet themselves, i am so fed up with the disingenuous Professional Politicians every where.

Comment by Larry Landin on July 29, 2011 at 3:20pm

Defense spending should be on the table, but only if adults ARE in the room.  For too many years we have maintained forward bases in economically developed countries with the means to defend themselves.  The burden has been on the U.S. taxpayer.  We need to review our interventionist policies and in so doing, reduce our overseas presence.  I AM NOT ADVOCATING ISOLATIONISM OR A WEAK DEFENSE.  I do advocate that we relieve ourselves of the self-appointed role as the world's policeman.  Our defense should be such that we can not only protect ourselves, but OVERWHELM any enemy.  With today's technology, that does not require the same as did the Cold War.  Small logistics support staffs located strategically (no bases) coupled with a strong Navy means we can be on site anywhere in the world rapidly.  NATO does nothing for us.  The UN does nothing for us.  Having served for 23 years with significant time overseas, I can say our presence is not even appreciated.  There are tremendous savings to be had with proper cuts in defense which will not weaken our capabilities. The problem is finding the adults to be in the room for the realignment.

Comment by Patricia Baber on July 29, 2011 at 2:30pm

You are so right Billie These people have cried wolf so often

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on July 29, 2011 at 1:57pm

Tamara, the only problem I have with what Coburn said is that national defence is one of the few things the federal government is charged with doing (and I mean one of the very few).  When liberal people want to cut, they always want to leave us in a worst position for defending ourselves and leave in all the welfare programs and food stamp programs (Obama cried about food stamps too).  The problem right now is such a large segment of the population, many of whom do not and likely have never paid any taxes, are on the public dole rather than gainfully employed (from even before the recession).  Until such time as we stop the give away programs, we will be where we are............and please note that even thought Obamacare will destroy a class A health care system and COST MORE, no one wants to fix the problem by kicking it back to the states.  They want to deterrmine who lives and who dies, the feds want to determine who succeeds and who doesn't, the feds want to micro manage schools, they want to micro manage our diets, they want to micro manage the environment, they want to micro manage so many things with all these expensive departments that should be shut down to save a huge sum of money!  Instead, we will cut the military in light of the fact we know are a weakened country with some real enemies who are not going to like us EVER...........and we need to be ever vigilent and put in counter measures but Obama will use the money for folks to sit on the rear ends at home and mooch.

Comment by tamara stephenson on July 29, 2011 at 11:40am

Meant to add that Coburn also stated that we would have to review defense spending, and that all spending was on the table.

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