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Comment by Patricia M. McBride on October 7, 2011 at 3:23pm

Steve, are you aware the southern plantation owners who did not want to give up their slaves were mostly southern democrats?  Were you also aware that Lincoln was a republican and when the slaves were free and the north and south finished thier little war, the slaves became republicans?  Did you know the KKK was comprised of southern democrats trying to bring those former slaves back into the fold and killed anyone who was too hard line to break?  Did you know they also killed the hard line whites that tried to help them or educate them?  Did you also know after the slaves were freed, they became entrepreneurs and businessmen and many were very successful while some moved west and started farms and they took care of themselves and their families.  Much of that self determination and the black family has been destroyed first by the KKK, and then, democrats came up with welfare and food stamps to get those Americans back on a different kind of plantation.  They have been their every since for the most part.  They think the world of Martin Luther King without every perhaps realizing that he was a conservative republican who believed people should be afforded the ability to be self supporting and should want to be self supporting.  He also did not believe in violence unlike many of the folks involved in this wall street thing.  The path of destruction weilded by the democratic party on people and our country is very wide and getting wider by the day, since they adopted the communist manifesto for their plank. 

Comment by T.A. Tate on October 7, 2011 at 3:22pm

YOU TELL  ME WHERE YOU FIND COMMON GROUND WITH A SOICALIST/COMMUNIST/LIBERAL (WHICH ARE ALL THE SAME--JUST DIFFERENT DEGREES)  I'M A AMERICAN,HUSBAND, FATHER, GRANDFATHER, VIETNBAM VET, I DO NOT HAVE COMMON GROUND WITH ANY COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST/LIBERALS, THEY MUST BE DEFEATED EITHER AT THE BALLOT BOX OR ON THE BATTLEFIELD--MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME, SINCERELY, T.A. TATE LOCKED AND LOADED

Comment by Bob Honiker on October 7, 2011 at 3:21pm

Marxists have always worked by exploiting every little inequality of society, either perceived or actual. They are doing it now, race against race, wealthy against less wealthy. The powers behind the effort are not doing it for you, me, the kids sleeping out on Wall Street, they are doing it because they lust for power, absolute power.

Folks I'm not wealthy. Most of you might laugh if you knew what my lifetime income amounted to, you might have spent more on shoes. When I first became involved with the Tea Party Movement I made it clear that my interest wasn't "fiscal only".  I'm here for the freedom thing, and the demonstrators in NYC and elsewhere, and those faceless tyrants behind them  are a threat to that. If "Taxed enough Already" is our only issue I don't fit here.

If you're going to get suckered in by George Soros I can't stop you but don't try to pull me down too!

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 3:20pm

@Patricia

 

We don't need them that is were I think you are wrong we were doing just fine without the GOP. 

 

I will support Ron Paul and he is not elected I will probably write him in.  I can't vote for the lesser of two evils anymore I will vote for the man or women I think is best for the job.  I'm tired of simply voting against someone I am going to vote for someone I believe in this time and the only one is Ron Paul.  I will not trade one that wants to be an oppressor for someone else that wants to be an oppressor just in a different way.  The others in the field I don't see as wanting to defend the Constitution much more then Obama.  Ron Paul has a consistent voting record and EVERYTHING that he supports lines up with the Constitution not with party lines.  The rest of them use the Constitution when it fits their needs just like Obama.

 

I'm not sure if you are talking about me when you talk about people on this site because I am usually in the minority when I express my views.  I'm not trying to cause any problems I'm simply expressing my feelings about what I believe are the problems and solutions to this countries ills.

 

I said I was not going to argue with people so I'm not going to talk about the protestors I have made my view on them and what I think they are fighting for clear.

Comment by JL Gawlik on October 7, 2011 at 3:16pm

Well stated Patricia, it is very clear what is going on and it is very clear who stands for what and it is getting clearer and clearer who is pushing the opposite agenda and to confuse others.

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 3:09pm

The banks also got rich while they where making loans.  Then the banks got even richer after the bottom fell out with our tax money.  The housing was just the catalyst to the problem the problem is way more intricate then just the housing issue.  The Fed comes into play as well when you talk about anything to do with the banking industry or money as a whole.  That is why many say that the Fed is the root cause of the problem.  They control prices, inflation, control money supply (That is tied to inflation), loan money to the government of not only this country but countries around the world. 

 

Even Herman Cain realizes they they are part of the problem, while he won't acknowledge quite how much.  As he explains it the Fed used to only have one mandate and in the 70's it got expanded to a section mandate on top of the first one and the two mandates are impossible to control at the same time.  I'm sorry I don't remember what he said the different mandates are or exactly why they conflict.  It was an interview he did with WeAreChange.  If anyone is interested I will find it when i get home.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on October 7, 2011 at 3:09pm

Steve, you are wrong about the tea party being hijacked by the republican party.  We do work with them on some things but it is a symbiotic relationship.  We need them, and they need us.  We don't agree with them on everything.   We will probably choose to support a republican candidate for president (the other choice would be Obama which is no choice).  We have 2 or 3 people that come on this web site regularly now that come on the blogs and push what I can only call the liberal agenda.  They must do so to cause a problem, because they rarely agree with any stand taken by the folks posting the articles and commentary.  They try to stir things up.............does that sound familiar.  It is what is happening on wall street.  Those young people have been bamboozled and are being used, but they are so brainwashed by the things they were taught in our public schools, they aren't even aware of it.  This is not a grass roots group; it is a group put together by a group of communist activists and people like Van Jones, Ms Piven, Mr. Obama and his unions.  They started working on people's children a while back and no one realized they were propagandizing our children.  The colleges always had far left liberals, but if the base is solid most young people just think they are wack jobs and ignore them mostly.  A few don't ignore them, and those are the ones you are seeing at the events.  This was planned and the head planner wants 4 more in the white house to finish the job he started about 3 years ago of destroying our country.  This is the turning point, and I am not going to allow anyone to turn my head away from the challenge in front of us, because what we will lose is our freedom and our country and we will end up with a dictator who thinks he has a right to take everything you have and give it to someone else!  This day or rage stuff is not organic; it was planned from day one.  I think Obama is looking for an excuse to do something so horrid no one will stand for it.

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 3:06pm

I invite everyone here to read or re-read Thoreau's On Civil Disobedience. Here is why I post here, not elsewhere.

Practically speaking, the opponents to a reform in Massachusetts are not a hundred thousand politicians at the South, but a hundred thousand merchants and farmers here, who are more interested in commerce and agriculture than they are in humanity, and are not prepared to do justice to the slave and to Mexico, cost what it may. I quarrel not with far-off foes, but with those who, near at home, co-operate with, and do the bidding of those far away, and without whom the latter would be harmless. We are accustomed to say, that the mass of men are unprepared; but improvement is slow, because the few are not materially wiser or better than the many. It is not so important that many should be as good as you, as that there be some absolute goodness somewhere; for that will leaven the whole lump.(15) There are thousands who are in opinion opposed to slavery and to the war, who yet in effect do nothing to put an end to them; who, esteeming themselves children of Washington and Franklin, sit down with their hands in their pockets, and say that they know not what to do, and do nothing; who even postpone the question of freedom to the question of free-trade, and quietly read the prices-current along with the latest advices from Mexico, after dinner, and, it may be, fall asleep over them both. What is the price-current of an honest man and patriot to-day? They hesitate, and they regret, and sometimes they petition; but they do nothing in earnest and with effect. They will wait, well disposed, for others to remedy the evil, that they may no longer have it to regret. At most, they give only a cheap vote, and a feeble countenance and Godspeed, to the right, as it goes by them. There are nine hundred and ninety-nine patrons of virtue to one virtuous man; but it is easier to deal with the real possessor of a thing than with the temporary guardian of it.

Comment by Patricia M. McBride on October 7, 2011 at 2:55pm

Armando, you are a prince.  People forget they also caused the housing bust by forcing all these banks to make loans to people the banks knew could not afford them, but they could either do it or get hauled into court by the ACLU or liberal politicians.  When Bush wanted to regulate wall street when he knew a problem was coming the democratic congress refused to do so and pushed for even loser loans and even removed more of what anyone with common sense would require.  No down payments mean no skin in the game, and it makes it easier for all these folks to walk away (the purpose of a downpayment is for you to share the risk with the bank instead of the bank having all the risk of default on their shoulders.  These liberal politicians with their belief that our money is their money really and they allow us to keep what they think we must have to live on, is a real issue.  Until we get people back in office that restore sanity and start treating our tax dollars like OUR tax dollars, things will not change.  The government by far is the hands down winner in the greed game and the head player is Obama right now.  He is not helping the middle class and poor people and in fact, he has hurt that group of people more than anyone else!

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 2:54pm

William, you say, " I stand with liberty." Great me too. But in some ways it is a zero sum game. Someone has to pay. Over the last thirty years or so it has been the working class, they have been paying all the bills. Poor people don't make enough to qualify to pay taxes. US corporations have 70,000 pages of loopholes built into the tax code, so they don't pay. Banks have never paid. Hedge fund operators pay half the rate I do yet their income exceeds mine a thousand times over. So yes at some point you have to pick sides. And I am standing with the working man.

If there was one message that I hear from these protestors it would be this-Respect.

Have some respect for the little guy.

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