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Comment by Douglas Newberry on October 7, 2011 at 1:56pm

My guess is that Steve and many others on this board have no idea what the Tea Party was founded on... they are Johnny come latelys that got on board after the republicans hi-jacked the tea party.

yes, the Tea party was started in December of 2007, and yes... we protested BUSH!

The idea was to restore the constitution, limited government and sound money.

The neo-cons got on board after Obama was elected and thought it all sprang up about healthcare reform. The term useful idiots comes to mind once again.

Freedom is hard!

You will know them by what they support, wars, patriot act, warrantless wiretaps, fondling at the airports and NFL games, internet spying, war on drugs etc etc etc... the RIGHT have destroyed the personal liberty of Americans under the guise of "security"

No, I am not on the left, I find the eco-nazis and progressives just as disturbing and misguided.

Comment by JL Gawlik on October 7, 2011 at 1:49pm

Steve Tikas's statement below: 'You say you are against crony capitialism but you have issue with me when I mention how corporations and politicians have a corrupt alliance and you defend them and say I should just use the legal process.  That very idea is the epithamy of crony capitalism. '

I have not defended any of what you stated nor have i made statements that you claim i have made.

 

You are clearly twisting the truth and facts. I am done with you. It is very obvious what you are about.

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 1:46pm

William, do you have comment regarding the Koch brothers?

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 1:45pm

William,

For once I want to see the rules bent  to favor the 99% instead of the 1%. And Ifor the life of me can't understand why it is you stand with the 1% and not the 99%.

And don't think that there are any Wall Street bankers kids over there fighting for their country, it is those kids in the park brothers,sisters friends and themselves.

Comment by JL Gawlik on October 7, 2011 at 1:44pm

Steve, by your statements, you clearly do NOT GET iT. You do not understand what the TeaParty movement is all about. 

I never did say stupid college kids. My vote is very, very valuable and counts, as every vote is, if you do not think so then you are a fool.

Personally i am not arguing with you, the more statements you make, the less I care about your opinion. Many college age, high school age, and young people are involved in the TeaParty movement period. Apparently you are unaware of this fact also.

Many protesters are being paid, just as many protesters in Madison WS early this year were also. Many are being manipulated. People here on this blog have read about all these plans over a year or early earlier what was going to happen, and it is now happening. This is nothing that magical popped up. This Wall Street protest/Day of Rage and earlier Madison WS protest are ALL FALSE protests period, not grass roots like the Tea Party is. 

Go research at the CATO Institute, the Independence Institute, the Tenth Amendment Center, the Heritage Foundation, Media Research Center.

You really need to go and research information yourself if you are truly being honest. I personally have my doubts by your statements and others here.

Your statement below: '...Tea Party has fueled this movement and it has been allowed to be steered towards anti-capitalism and hate the rich.' 

The TeaParty has NOT fueled anti-Capitalism, or hate the rich. The present President of the USA has, along with the Progressive Democrats, the Unions, Van Jones, the Communist Party USA and all of the like-minded comrades. The Fear mongering, race/class warfare, anti-Capitalism/Corporations, hate the rich and hate vitriol has come from all the above, period.

If you, Douglas and Amanda think the TeaParty should align itself with these Day of Rage groups then you truly do NOT GeT iT, none of you truly GeT iT or even comprehend what the TeaParty movement is truly about, you are all totally clueless.

These are my personal opinions.

 

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 1:41pm

Here is the link to the protestors demands.  http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-w... They do have specific demands so please stop saying they don't.

 

JL I really don't care much what you say about me I was taking issue with the use of insults as a whole to the debate.  Insults don't do anything to further any point and only degrade what you are trying to say.  As far as my comment about slavery it was not to bring race into the subject it was simply the first thing that came to mind when I thought about something we used to do that today is considered wrong and no longer done...like use the word useful idiot.  Also if you dislike the isms so much why use words made famous by them to demean people.  Just an oddity in your logic.

 

You say you are against crony capitialism but you have issue with me when I mention how corporations and politicians have a corrupt alliance and you defend them and say I should just use the legal process.  That very idea is the epithamy of crony capitalism. 

 

If you feel I misrepresented something you said please let me know what it is I did not mean to misrepresent anything anyone has said.  It is possible I misunderstood you.  Clarify for me and if I misrepresented your opinion I will be more then happy to apologize to you.

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 1:39pm

Plus Iraq and Afghan war veterans have an unemployment rate that is 50% higher than the national rate

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 1:38pm

There are Iraq war veterans there, so yes I am.

Comment by Douglas Newberry on October 7, 2011 at 1:35pm

William... you are wrong... please stop spreading propaganda and talking points... go to their site and see the list of 7 demands that OWS is putting forth.

If you one day find yourself with a clue...we'll accept your apology.

Comment by William Korach on October 7, 2011 at 1:33pm

Amanda;

Are you seriously comparing the Wall St demonstrators to the  young people who wear the uniform to defend us? The only thing they have in common is age. Fine to speak up, fine to protest, but they speak ignorance and rage. What to they want? Only to punish successful people. Sure there were plenty of crooks at the banks and at the trading firms, and they are being punished and fined. Just read the papers. But the protesters want to punish success. America is not France of Louis XIV, with rich nobles who live off the peasants. It is a land of free entrepreneurs who have given the world a better standard of living and better government. Is is really right to seize the assets of successful business people and give it to those who don't work. Because that is what these people are saying.

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