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Comment by tamara stephenson on October 7, 2011 at 10:50am

These young people have watched what has happened over the last 3 years:  TARP bailouts, Citizens United, and SuperPacs and are probably thinking that there is no way that generation will get ahead.  They also see that over 2/3 of the federal budget is spent on medicare and think:  this country is bankrupt, morally and financially, they've got no shot at the brass ring unless daddy has the connection to get them a job; the big lie of "get a college education and get ahead" is merely a useless degree with staggering debt.  They realize they will be the ones to clean up the mess that the baby boomers have created.  And they would be right.  Where the tea party sees the government as the problem, this group sees a government bought and paid for by corporate America; the government won't do anything because they've been paid to do nothing, so what's the point in rallying in D.C. when the real money, the real power is right there in NYC.  What should we expect from these young people?  Gratitude for inheiriting a country deep in debt with no prospects for a bright future for them?

Comment by w. lee dungan jr. on October 7, 2011 at 10:42am

these protesters are just more  destructive distraction caused by a failed administration. in other news protesters make more demands say what, a poney,a bathroom, a shower,rolling papers.

Comment by amanda choate on October 7, 2011 at 10:30am

Michael, you are wrong profit is not good or bad, in and of itself it has no morals.

If a drug dealer turns a profit is that good? If a hired killer makes a profit is that good?

Or if a corporation makes a profit from selling it's products to a country that uses those products to profit themselves and then use those profits to attack your ally, is that profit good?

Money and profits are amoral. The means to derive them and what they are used for afterwards is what has morality attached.

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 10:28am

For anyone that says the protestors have no actual demands here you go straight from their site.

 

http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-w...

 

You don't hear the demands on TV that doesn't mean they don't have them.  Again don't let the MSM dictate what you think about things.

Comment by w. lee dungan jr. on October 7, 2011 at 10:28am

I would like to clarify one of my comments. when I called the protesters useful idiots I put the word useful in there to be generous.

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 10:26am

@Tim

 

What we have in our country today is nothing that resembles liberty.  We have the beginning of a police state that is only getting worse by the day.  We have corporations that buy our politicians threw campaign contributions.  Those same politicians that are bought by the corporations pass laws that help the corporation and screw over the American public.  Dodd and Frank with the housing.  Dodd with banking regulations that in the end help the banks and screw us the people.  The politicians then go behind the problem they cause and pass more laws that further screw us and help they big campaign finances.   How is that any sembelece of freedom or liberty. 

 

I am not saying that these protestors have it right because some of them are off and don't understand much of anything but to dismiss all of them as useful idiots is ignorant.  Also the MSM puts the ones on the TV that they want you to see everyone here should be dialed in enough to know that the media steers things.

 

I do see how this movement can, and in the end probably will, be used to further the growing police state especially now with the inclusion of the unions but again I am more defending the idea which is a just and valid message.  I am defending the protestors in regards to people painting all of them as idiots and also against the ones that are saying how they are violent (like Mrs. Tucker).  There has been more violence towards the protestors from the police then the other way around.

Comment by Debbie G on October 7, 2011 at 10:23am

@ Amanda Choate,

Your perspective is unique.  However, these activities occurring across the nation have as much similarity with the tea party movement as water has with oil.  Water and oil may be liquids, but their distinguishing properties have no similarities.  The Tea Party movement is made up of people, as is the current occupying movement, this is the similarity.

Comment by William Korach on October 7, 2011 at 10:20am

Amanda;

You go to great lengths to make  the Tea Party to the mob on Wall Street morally equivalent. The only comparison is that both groups are outdoors and both groups carry signs. The Tea Party has been clear about our goals: a return to Constitutional government, rule of law, and an admiration for America's heritage of personal liberty. The mob on Wall street has no coherent message other than they want to shut down Wall street, and they threaten violence. They are a nasty bigoted group. Yesterday, an old Orthodox Jew suggested to one of the young men that he get a job. The protester reply: "You're a bum, Jew." 

 

The Tea Party has nothing to do with people like this.

 

 

Comment by Phyl Kimball on October 7, 2011 at 10:20am

Perhaps we should consider the action that the Oath Keepers are planning... As many of you know the Oath Keepers are a Pro-Constitution group of military and law enforcement veterans who have pledged to uphold their constitutional duty. Many are Tea Party members… Please consider the following excerpt from their website today:

Oath Keepers is planning to “Occupy The Fed Now!” and publicize this to remind the Occupy Wall Street people that the Fed is the source problem, without which the Wall Street criminals would be set back a hundred years.

 

Oath Keepers To Occupy The Occupation! 

Oath Keepers is not going to stand idly by and watch the Soros socialist/collectivist/Big Government crowd claim these newly-awakening Americans as their own. From Michael Moore to a host of other Big Government statists, the Soros faction is trying now to steal the people's thunder, just the way the Republican Party tried to steal the Tea Party's thunder by co-opting the Tea Party.

Occupy The Fed

http://occupythefednow.com/ai1ec_event/occupy-the-fed/

Comment by Steve Tikas on October 7, 2011 at 10:13am

Mr. Dungan

 

The 'obummber useful idiots' started protesting due to the corruption that exist between lobbyists, wall street, political money which has caused record profits at the same time they are lying people off.  That is what it has to do with. 

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